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[Official] Texans Offseason Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Castor27, Jan 19, 2025.

  1. Fulgore

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    They think CJ is too emotional when his teammates are injured.
     
  2. Bobbythegreat

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    It may seem harsh, but a leader is the guy who consoles others when things go wrong, not the guy who falls to pieces and needs to be consoled every time something bad happens.

    It may not matter due to his talent, but it's a bad look.
     
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  3. Qan

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    CJ cares for his teammates.... especially when said teammates have season ending injuries.
     
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  4. solid

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    I am with CJ, compassion is appreciated. We don't live in the twenties.
     
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    I think I’m more in the middle. As a leader I believe you need to show composure and strength, at the same time compassion for your teammates.
    Overly emotional like last year was a bit much for me, but I also get it.
    Either way, has to be able to rebound from those types of things and lead the team.
    As long as the team follows him, it doesn’t matter
     
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    First noticed it when Tank got hurt in the Broncos game. Jerrod Johnson took him aside and sat with him while Stroud was going through it. What happened? They won the game and nearly took on three LBs in a fight.

    Then the Regular season KC game last year.
    Phantom hit that negates a recovered fumble possibly return for a TD. Offensive pass "interference", a "late" hit on Mahomes on 3rd down and a missed extra point by our kicker. After the Dell injury Stroud leads them to the RZ. Things that plagued them since Green bay took over. A sack by KC, followed by an offensive penalty. Instead of tying the game, they settle for a FG. Game over.

    Point being: It doesn't affect how he plays after displaying compassion. "Show" trying to make it like Stroud turns into Norman Dike in the battlefield.[​IMG]
     
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  7. Pistol Pete

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    You obviously aren't a leader...... Leaders don't console others they inspire confidence in others to overcome bad things.
     
  8. cmlmel77

    cmlmel77 Up all Night Watching Houston Sports
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    I agree Bobby is not a leader - no one who cannot admit a mistake or communicate with nuance ever is - but showing empathy and grief when something bad happens is absolutely a sign of a good leader. That is part of the process of overcoming bad things. You can’t let it overwhelm you or affect performance - but as the post above you showed, CJ does not.
     
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    I am not concerned when someone like Ron "The Show" has a hot take, he is not a Texans fan and relishes when something goes off script, if CJ needs a few minutes to get is mind right then so be it. I really hope we get lucky and Jordan`s injury isnt as serious as it looked, he is a good kid who IMO was about to have a breakout year
     
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  10. Commodore

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    Is that where Deshaun Watson gets a massage?

    Afaf.
     
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  12. Bobbythegreat

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    You clearly don't have a clue what you are talking about... and i can only assume you are talking with a crybaby with a fragile ego given the "show ignored content" bit.

    Hate to break it to you guys, but optics matter as much or more than results when it comes to being a leader. You don't inspire confidence when you break down every time something goes wrong, even if you ultimately pull it together and it doesn't effect YOUR performance, grief and despair have a tendency to be contagious, which is why those things are the absolute last thing you ever want to see from a leader.

    I know this probably goes over the head of most... but most have never been in the position to be leaders of men.
     
  13. TheRealist137

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    CJ has lived through a very difficult childhood and got to where he is because of his resiliency. Also him breaking down like this shows the rest of his teammates how much he cares about them. Whether that's leadership or not, that's genuine aka not fake, so it gains respect among the locker room. It also depends on why CJ is emotional. If it's because his brother may have gotten a season ending injury, that's different than when he throws an interception or things don't go his way.

    CJ does not get emotional like this when things don't go his way on the field, he only does this when a teammate potentially has their career cut short.
     
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  14. cmlmel77

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    Good lord you moron. I lead a multibillion business with over 5000 employees making millions per year, and I have always had the highest leadership scores in every job I’ve been in.

    You sit on a keyboard all day judging young men who do things you never could in an environment you’ve never experienced, while lacking even the slightest bit of introspection or humility despite repeatedly being wrong. CJ didn’t break down - he was empathetic to an injured coworker.

    Go back into your hole and scream into the void, and try to pretend you are winning at life (or would be if the world was fair and recognized your obvious gifts).
     
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    Sean this morning for the web dwellers: " I don't know how this Stroud crying again started. All I said was he took a walk by himself to the opposite FG post. Dalton came up to check on him. He finished the drive with a long TD to Dalton."

    It doesn't change his approach which is why it works for THIS team. It's part of his charm and his teammates even Cowboys players love him for it.
     
  16. Pistol Pete

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    Showing empathy and grief is a good human that even non leaders exhibit. I'm referring to rallying the troops type leadership.
     
  17. Bobbythegreat

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    Lol sure thing kid, you either understand what I'm saying, or you don't know what you're talking about.

    Who you think you are or who you pretend to be can't change that.
     
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    Bobby probably never played sports except for the time he quit the Fun Fair Positive Soccer League because it was too competitive for him. He probably is in his 40's , never had girlfriend and sleeps on the couch at his dad's 1 bedroom mobile home. @cmlmel77 gave legit examples of leadership and Bobbythegreat-garbageman couldn't even explain his great leadership slinging cans from the curb to the truck/
     
  20. cmlmel77

    cmlmel77 Up all Night Watching Houston Sports
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    Tell you what. I just sent you a DM with my name, and you can confirm for yourself. Then go ahead and let me know your leadership credentials.

    Kiddo.
     
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