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[WaPo] Trump to bring back presidential physical fitness test canceled by Obama

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  1. Amiga

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    No food + exercise or else = no obesity
     
  2. Amiga

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    Nay, some of us don’t buy into marketing slogans and prefer actual, realistic, feasible, well-thought-out solutions. I know that’s hard for you to grasp because, well, today’s culture thinks 20-word tweets solve everything.

    If you haven’t noticed, this administration is good at one thing... BS marketing. Every trade deal they announce supposedly brings in trillions of dollars. Trillions. Great for headlines. But dig just one cm in and you’ll see it’s all BS. That’s their version of “doing something”... something we don’t need, but it sounds great in slogans, tweets, and headlines while solving absolutely no real problems.
     
  3. Space Ghost

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    All political slogans are garbage intended to mislead their flock.

    Here are the ones you support and believe are awesome and/or accurate:

    • Affordable Health Care
    • I’m With Her
    • Stronger Together
    • Love Trumps Hate
    • A Political Revolution Is Coming
    • Fixing Democracy Can’t Wait
    • Rebuild the American Dream
    • Build Back Better
    • Restore the Soul of America
    • Our Best Days Still Lie Ahead
    • No Malarkey
    • Not Me. Us.
    • Big, Structural Change
    • Persist
    • Dream Big, Fight Hard
    • I Have a Plan for That
    • Win the Era
    • It’s Time for a New Generation of American Leadership
    • For the People
    • Lead with Love
    • Humanity First
    • Not Left, Not Right, Forward
    • Make America Think Harder (MATH)
    • Better for America, Better for All
    • A Better Deal
    • Reproductive Freedom
    • Climate Action
    • Building a Better America
    • Democrats Deliver
    • Organizing Everywhere
     
  4. Amiga

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    You could just said BS Marketing and be done. Now, slogan are actually FINE if there are actual thoughts behind it that can be executed, is feasible and realistic. And solve a real problem.

    As for YOU SUPPORT AND BELIEVE ITS AWESOME - how did you come to that? LOL. Partisan habits are hard to break.
     
  5. IVFL

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    Yeah they are stealing from the republicans playbook on reducing fossil fuel consumption and carbon output.
    I work out 4-5 days a week. One thing I know to be true. It takes an insane amount of working out to make up for a crappy diet. People are just saying let’s start with the root of the problem, ie food, and then tackle exercise. But deep down you know that, you just can’t help yourself.
     
  6. xtruroyaltyx

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    Touché and My bad. With the crazy stuff I see people say on here and the internet in general I just never know.
     
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  7. Space Ghost

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    As the saying goes, you can't outrun a crappy diet.

    Its less about burning calories and more about becoming more active. Its a terrible cycle - The more active a person is, the easier it is to stay active, burn more calories, spend less time eating poorly, ect. Its extremely difficult to moderate.
     
  8. Amiga

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    Relevant:

    New Duke Study Finds Obesity Rises with Caloric Intake, Not Couch Time | Trinity College of Arts & Sciences

    A newly released study from Duke University’s Pontzer Lab, housed in the Department of Evolutionary Anthropology in Trinity College of Arts & Sciences, looks at the correlations between economic development, daily energy expenditure and the rise in a country’s obesity level.

    While many experts have offered that rising obesity rates are due to declining physical activity as societies become more industrialized, the findings show that people in wealthier countries expend just as much — or even more — energy daily. In an article recently published in PNAS, Duke researchers point instead to higher caloric intake as the primary driver, suggesting that diet rather than idleness plays the bigger role in the global obesity crisis.

    “Despite decades of trying to understand the root causes of the obesity crisis in economically developed countries, public health guidance remains stuck with uncertainty as to the relative importance of diet and physical activity. This large, international, collaborative effort allows us to test these competing ideas. It’s clear that changes in diet, not reduced activity, are the main cause of obesity in the U.S. and other developed countries,” says Herman Pontzer, principal investigator with the Pontzer Lab and professor in the Department of Evolutionary Anthropology.

    The researchers analyzed thousands of measurements of daily energy expenditure, body fat percentage and body mass index (BMI) from adults aged 18 to 60 across 34 populations spanning six continents. The more than 4,200 adults included in the study came from a wide range of lifestyles and economies, including hunter-gatherer, pastoralist, farming and industrialized populations. To further categorize the level of industrialization, they also integrated data from the United Nations Human Development Index (HDI) to incorporate measures of lifespan, prosperity and education.

    “While we saw a marginal decrease in size-adjusted total energy expenditure with economic development, differences in total energy expenditure explained only a fraction of the increase in body fat that accompanied development. This suggests that other factors, such as dietary changes, are driving the increases in body fat that we see with increasing economic development,” says Amanda McGrosky, a Duke postdoctoral alumna and lead investigator for the study who is now an assistant professor of biology at Elon University.

    The researchers hope the study helps clarify public health messaging and strategies to tackle the obesity crisis and explain that the findings do not mean that efforts to promote physical activity should be minimized. Instead, the data support an emerging consensus that both diet and exercise should be prioritized. “Diet and physical activity should be viewed as essential and complementary, rather than interchangeable,” the study notes. They will next work to identify which aspects of diet in developed countries are most responsible for the rise in obesity.
     
  9. DonnyMost

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    This is very true.

    All the same, exercise alone is helpful and can help induce better food choices.
     
  10. Os Trigonum

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    wow, when you've got the Washington Post on your side, you must be doing something right

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/08/07/presidential-fitness-test-childhood-obesity/


    Opinion

    Editorial Board
    Bring back the presidential fitness test
    Kids need recess and gym. Exercise and diet are required to reverse the childhood obesity epidemic.
    Today at 7:00 a.m. EDT

    President Donald Trump’s announcement last week that he will reinstate the presidential fitness test provoked some predictable groaning, and not unreasonably. On their own, physical fitness tests — once the bane of many children in school gymnasiums — would be more of a performative gesture than a real public health campaign to tackle the childhood obesity epidemic.

    But it is wrong to dismiss the idea entirely. The president’s focus on the health of America’s children is welcome, especially if it draws added attention to the need for more school time devoted to physical activity.

    A study published last month found that the percentage of children with obesity rose from 19 percent in 2008 to 23 percent in 2023, continuing a trend that has persisted for decades. Meanwhile, more than 1 percent of children in 2023 had “extremely severe obesity,” a 250 percent increase from the start of the study. The startling finding can partially be attributed to the coronavirus pandemic, which greatly exacerbated inactive lifestyles.

    The consequences of this health threat are hard to overstate. Obesity increases the risk of heart disease, diabetes and several types of cancers, which together kill more than 1 million Americans a year. Among young people, it is also associated with low self-esteem, anxiety and depression. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimates that obesity-related medical care costs reached upward of $173 billion in 2019 dollars.

    Proponents of fitness tests often cite the difficulty military recruiters have finding volunteers who can meet the physical requirements. In fact, that goes to the core of why the presidential fitness test first came into being. In the 1950s, studies showing that young Americans performed far below international peers convinced President Dwight D. Eisenhower that regular physical tests were necessary. His immediate successor, John F. Kennedy, was even more passionate about the issue. He wrote an open letter in Sports Illustrated in 1960 promoting fitness tests to combat the rise of the “soft American,” which he warned could “strip and destroy the vitality of a nation.”

    In the decades that followed, the tests became a mainstay in public education, typically consisting of a range of activities including sit-ups, pull-ups, sit-and-reach, shuttle runs and a 1-mile run. That lasted until 2012, when the Obama administration phased out the tests in favor of a voluntary program that focused more holistically on childhood health, including individual fitness goal setting and nutrition, rather than one-time tests in which students competed against one another.

    There is little evidence the fitness tests did much to improve children’s health, which should be unsurprising. Public health experts emphasize that a combination of lifestyle changes is needed to make kids healthier, including improved nutrition as well as regular exercise. That means limiting sugary drinks and processed foods as well as getting children to participate in at least 60 minutes of vigorous activity a day. One or two annual fitness tests are not going to make that a reality.

    But Trump’s executive order could be useful to promote those goals, especially in terms of compiling school-level data that can help guide districts that have been falling short. The president’s task force devising the new test should consider thinking even bigger than just testing children on their ability to perform physical tasks. For example, can the fitness diagnostic measure how much time children spend sitting down during an average day? Can it track what students in a school are eating, on average?

    The president’s task force ought to be careful to avoid fat-shaming or humiliating children, which might cause antisocial behavior and make them less likely to work out as adults. Instead, the purpose should be to inform school officials on what they can do to promote healthy behaviors. For example, information on inactive time could pressure schools to rethink their schedules.

    Many schools have restricted recess time to less than 20 minutes a day. Some have eliminated it. Ending recess is a recipe for children acting out, struggling to focus in the classroom and becoming obese. If the school day needs to be lengthened to allow for gym class and outdoor play time, so be it.

    Unfortunately, the White House has not always backed up its rhetoric with action. In recent weeks, the administration froze billions of dollars in federal education funding, including for after-school programs and teacher training. It reversed course only after backlash from GOP senators.

    Nevertheless, the president’s instinct to promote childhood health is correct. Active adults tend to learn their habits in childhood. Fitness tests, if implemented wisely, can help make that happen.
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  11. Buck Turgidson

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    From the article above:

    There is little evidence the fitness tests did much to improve children’s health, which should be unsurprising. Public health experts emphasize that a combination of lifestyle changes is needed to make kids healthier, including improved nutrition as well as regular exercise. That means limiting sugary drinks and processed foods as well as getting children to participate in at least 60 minutes of vigorous activity a day. One or two annual fitness tests are not going to make that a reality.
    ...
    Many schools have restricted recess time to less than 20 minutes a day. Some have eliminated it. Ending recess is a recipe for children acting out, struggling to focus in the classroom and becoming obese. If the school day needs to be lengthened to allow for gym class and outdoor play time, so be it.

    Unfortunately, the White House has not always backed up its rhetoric with action. In recent weeks, the administration froze billions of dollars in federal education funding, including for after-school programs and teacher training. It reversed course only after backlash from GOP senators.
     
  12. durvasa

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    The editorial is fine. But we know the WaPo editorial board has shifted its politics over the last year to be less adversarial to Trump. Much speculation as to why, which I won’t get into.
     
  13. Os Trigonum

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    Democracy dies in darkness
     
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    Our own DD will win the presidential fitness medal. Kryspy Kreme will sponsor him. Bwahahaha!
     
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