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Solving Illegal Immigration

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by thumbs, Jun 15, 2018.

  1. HTM

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    Illegal aliens are in the country illegally.

    The remedy is to remove them from the country.

    Every country in the world does this. It's common and accepted practice.

    Giving them a ticket and allowing them to remain in the country makes literally no sense. Do they get a ticket everyday? A one time ticket? Your position is laughable and preposterous.
     
  2. Amiga

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    It's not common practice, nor is it accepted practice. In fact, it's long been accepted that we don’t separate families over minor offenses. Since Reagan (and until recently), it’s also been common practice not to deport people over minor things.

    Separating families and causing lasting harm over minor violations is morally indefensible. Hiding behind “it’s a crime” doesn’t make it any less immoral.

    ps... I didn’t say anything about a ticket. I said speeding is breaking the law, and we don’t separate families for that.
     
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  3. HTM

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    This isn't true at all.

    Obama deported 5.3 million people.

    You think that didn't separate any families?
     
  4. JoeBarelyCares

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    Trump should be careful what he wishes for. Republicans have been more effective in gerrymandering Latino districts because they have a disproportionate share of non-citizens, who cannot vote. Additionally, Texas and Florida would probably lose one representative each in the House, in addition to billions in Federal funding.
     
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  5. Amiga

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    Obama, like every other POTUS except this one, prioritized deporting hardcore criminals. Deporting hardcore criminals, even if it causes family separation, is morally okay. The harm they cause is greater than the harm from family separation. At the same time, every other POTUS has been conscious about avoiding family separation over minor offenses and has opposed deporting those who crossed the border illegally as children.
     
  6. Rocket River

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    Honestly . . . someone asked a Good Question.
    We kind of know where they sending all the illegal immigrant men .. . . .

    What about the Women and Children?
    With this ADMIN being so cozy with Pedophiles and traffickers . . . it is a legit concern

    Rocket River
     
  7. HTM

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    You’re evading

    Did Obama separate families when he deported 5.2 million people? No members of any families were separated on that process? Nonsense.
     
  8. astros123

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    Obama wasn't picking up citizens and detaining them for multiple days without due process. Why do you cultists pretend that you can't deport people while also upholding the constitution?
     
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    Is immigration the answer?

     
  11. Space Ghost

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    … and yet we have an adjudicated rapist, thief who stole money from Children with Cancer and Vets charities, a pathological liar and con, money launderer, tax fraud, coup instigator, adulterer on 3 wives, Trump University fraudster, 34 count felon neck deep in conflicts of interest, who is throwing tariffs on Brazil out of loyalty to another coup leading criminal, siding with and refusing to condemn the crimes upon humanity by Netanyahu, and old BFF to pedophiles Jeffery Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell yucking it up in the White House, and bending over backwards to give Maxwell a sweet deal.

    The con himself claiming to Making America Great Again pardoned all the insurrectionists who attacked and beat police officers, and threatened to kill politicians, and is weeding this country of people like this 55 year old women selling tamales. We can sleep better at night now with such a violent tamale selling criminal off the streets and Trump's Patriots being set free.
     
    #7372 deb4rockets, Aug 9, 2025 at 7:51 AM
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  13. rimrocker

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    Ho hum. Another revelation that would have meant instant impeachment proceedings in the olden days before 2016.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/08/09/trump-administration-irs-data-dispute/

    Good ol' Billy was given a "promotion" from IRS Commissioner to Iceland Ambassador.
     
  14. astros123

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    Ice is right, go after the criminals but some people just trying to earn a living and have a better future. They don't deserve to be treated the way they are....
     
  16. Rocket River

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    How could you use government money to fund the KLAN?

    I.C.E.
    No Age Limit
    No Real Qualifications (no Bachelor Degree)
    50 K Signing Bonus
    100K a year

    I am willing to be that the overlap will probably be like 85~95%

    Rocket River
     
  17. Xerobull

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    "I can't wait until this period is over"

    THAT is the problem. It doesn't hurt enough yet.
     
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    That photo is a mirror image of the original. I assume it's to make better visual parallel of the photo on the right.

    1:18 of this video.
     
  19. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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  20. Rocket River

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    Until I hear different - the women and children ICE is "detaining" are being trafficked by the Pedo President and his minions

    Rocket River
     

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