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Israel Goes To War with Hamas 2023

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by astros123, Oct 6, 2023.

  1. HTM

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    What percentage of Israeli's are settlers?

    I would imagine they are small subset of the population and more right wing than most Israelis.
     
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    They are. That wasn't a settler poll. That was a general Israeli poll.

    I've heard some admittedly anecdotal evidence, but from people who would normally view Israel very favorably and who are very conservative and not given to hyperbole, that is extremely unfavorable of the knowledge base and general mental outlook of the average settler.
     
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    No. I don't support international organizations. It is too easy for them to be captured by bad actors. China, Russia, Cuba, and Pakistan were all elected to the Human Rights Council in 2020. The UN has more resolutions against Israel than against every other country combined. No, I would not leave it to international bodies to go after Hamas.
     
  4. lionaire

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    LOL of course
     
  5. LosPollosHermanos

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    Are you being sarcastic or were you intending to prove my point?

    you don’t want to be held accountable or face retribution for bush but have no problem holding >50% of Gaza (that was born a decade after the elections) accountable and worthy of being starved and massacred. Let me repeat, as a grown ass man you want children that bear no responsibility to be mutllated and massacred as casualties of their own decision while you should not bear any responsibility

    at some point you have to be open to the fact it isn’t logic, but some deeply seated hatred and discrimination that motivate you all
     
  6. HTM

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    I didn’t say any of that.

    You’re simply ranting like a lunatic. Try and develop some coherent thoughts. I engage with other posters just fine.
     
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    Again, the question you posed there is based on a selective reading of the link you posted that completely disregards what the person you were quoting actually said.
     
  8. HTM

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    You clearly don't understand what you're talking about.

    It's not a selective reading. The point of the post was to point out Hamas is by far the most popular political party in Gaza and that sentiments likely aren't that much changed to where they were in 2006. The article contained data stating Hamas polls at 40% where the next closest rival stands at 20%. That's a gigantic difference.

    The point of the post wasn't to claim everyone in Gaza supported Hamas particular actions at any particular event.

    It wasn't required of me to dissect the entire article and explain every line in it.
     
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    Hold accountable means criticizing them for the harm they enable. It does not mean supporting punitive actions that inflict pain on them, such as bombing them indiscriminately or treating them as second-class citizens.
     
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    Took two years but israeli human rights organization has determined their country is carrying out a genocide

     
  13. LosPollosHermanos

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    Are you r****ded?
     
  14. LosPollosHermanos

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    Scrolling up 2-3 posts isn’t difficult, if you lack the intelligence or competence to restate your position just a couple of minutes after typing away, you’re wasting everybody’s time.

    yea it seems other posters are understanding you just fine. Again, scrolling up a couple of lines answers that, but I do acknowledge not everybody reads great. Take a step back and rethink why you are likely living a miserable existence, acknowledging your ignorance may be the biggest favor you do to yourself. I’ve given you the biggest gift you could hope for friend

    It’s almost helpful when someone is this ignorant, makes it clear as day all you do is risk getting **** on you in stepping into their pig pen. Again, I’ll let everyone else continue to take their dump on you. As an fyi, we have things like AI that can really help you out.
     
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    Of course, I don’t support indiscriminate bombing or taking away people’s basic liberties. But certain punitive measures against the country as a whole which creates some pain for the citizens of that country might be justifiable for holding them to account. For instance, economic sanctions.
     
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    It is selective reading when you pick out a part to make a point that is undermined by other parts of the same article. The article specifically discusses “the values” you were opining about, which you simply ignored. That is textbook selective reading.

    You used the words “overwhelmingly support” Hamas and further implied that these supporters sharing Hamas’s values could mean they support massacring all Jews in the region. It was a slippery rhetorical move. First, you exaggerated the level of support by using the word “overwhelming” when not even a majority supports Hamas (when the other options suck, 40% deciding Hamas is the best of the crappy set of options does not equate to “overwhelming” support). Second, you ran with the line that they have aligned values and starting JAQing off about Palestinians wanting to massacre Jews based on that, without bothering to read a few sentences down in the same article.

    No, I don’t expect you to read every word. But if you’re going to make points based on the article, you should try to read all the parts that are relevant to the points you are trying to make. This is pretty basic stuff.
     
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    define it then
     
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  20. Jugdish

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    It was a joke...

    "Israel is committing genocide in Gaza. It sounds inconceivable. But it’s the truth."
     
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