What will it take to make you seriously consider an EV?

Tesla puts foot in its mouth: ‘unsupervised self-driving is not solved’, but what about robotaxi?
https://electrek.co/2025/07/24/tesla-foot-mouth-unsupervised-self-driving-not-solved-robotaxi/

Tesla is way behind Waymo in FSD. While Waymo is doing real rides, for real customers. All Tesla has is a few cars in a penis shaped area doing like one ride a day. This is not a serious company.

 

https://www.carscoops.com/2025/07/ev-owners-report-worsening-service-experience-study/
A new study from CDK Global shows rising EV satisfaction, but also longer service times and growing owner frustration

something to consider when buying tesla/rivian/lucid etc

 

I hate dealerships, yet there are some benefits. I love the 15 parts stores and 5 mechanics I have around who can fix whatever I either can't or don't want to. If something goes wonky on my EV I don't want to take it 75 miles to get a tech to look at it. Convenience does have a price.

 

My answer hasn't changed. It's still "a frontal lobe labotomy".

 

"Nobody would buy a petrol car if EVs came first"

I think they all came around the same time with ICE vehicles maybe pre-dating EVs by a few years. Fun fact : first president to ride in an EV was William McKinley. He also was the first to be transported in an EV (an EV ambulance) after being shot.

 

according to everyone in this thread, this needs more lidar

 

Browsing sh**ter, it looks like the tesla nerds have latched onto the lidar vs. camera argument.

 

Lol you don't think that the waymo engineers for a decade didn't think about the idea that cameras could improve over time?

Nah I'll trust a company who's goal is safety, not cheapness, on what is required for autonomous driving.

Tesla has a massive conflict of interest, driven by being cheap.

 

Tesla also have a massive egomaniac who thinks he is right about everything.

Now I want FSD to succeed because my goodness Tesla drivers are some of the worst out there.

 

Also in Tesla news:

Sales down 90% in Quebec
60% in the UK
86% in Sweden
58% in Belgium
27% in France

And, they were found liable and fined $243 million after a jury decided the driver assistance feature was faulty.

https://www.wired.com/story/tesla-liable-2019-autopilot-crash-death/

 

Deserved, all he has done is ruin Tesla's reputation, alienate half of the company's potential customers, fail to deliver on any promises (FSD, Robotaxi, cybertruck, roadster) and collapse sales for his cars all over the world.