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Why is Trump covering up the Epistein files and lying to the public?

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  1. JuanValdez

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    I found this NYT article about the effort illuminating: How a Frantic Scouring of the Epstein Files Consumed the Justice Dept. - The New York Times

    The impression I get is that, after all the campaign focus, Trump wanted to get something concrete out of these files for an indictment, preferably of a democrat or something. So they combed all the files and maybe found salacious stuff but nothing they could build an indictment on. So instead they had to think about what they could release that would embarrass enemies instead. But the documents had victims' names and other sensitive information that would make the Admin look incompetent to release, so they had to review everything to make sure things were properly redacted. Then they discovered more victims' names that they weren't scrubbing for before, so they had to go through again. And of course, there were also the famous people mentioned in the documents, like Trump, whom the DOJ would not by practice want to insinuate was a pedo without being about to bring charges. So they were redacted too. At the end of all that, they found there was no good way to embarrass an enemy without embarrassing Trump more. So they tried to bury the whole thing.

    Point of all that being, the 1000 agents were necessary for combing the files looking for leads. Part of their job was redacting Trump mentions, but they were also redacting victims' names and grand jury testimony and looking all the while for some way to go after a perp. And there just wasn't a gotcha in there that would hold up in court.
     
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  2. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    What about all the victims that NAME TRUMP directly, that he raped them? It is more than one.......so where is the justice for them?

    I believe 100% that Trump raped children, and it isn't from anything other than direct video testimony from those women themselves....

    Why aren't we and the news media going after them directly, what kind of cowardice is it? These women deserve justice, even if it is the President of the country, if he is a PEDOPHILE he needs to have the book thrown at him.

    DD
     
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  4. Amiga

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    Absolutely, protect victims (court order). There is no need to specifically protect famous people. This administration has not shown that they care about protecting the innocent, so why did they take the time to make sure famous people are protected?

    Step in their shoe, not in your.
     
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    trump "only" has 34 felony convictions, Trader_ J. No big deal, not to you, but for trump, it was a...

    BAD DAY
     
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  6. DaDakota

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    And he owes over 400m in payments to a women he sexually assaulted.

    28 women have accused him, but in MAGA world they are lying and Trump isn't, when he is a known liar.

    Donald Trump should have been put in prison years ago, he is a habitual liar, we have someone worse than Al Capone in the Whitehouse taking bribes from foreign countries like Qatar, and from businesses here in the USA like Paramount.

    He is a conman, and he has a lot of people conned.

    DD
     
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  7. El_Conquistador

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    LOL for a bookkeeping entry that he didn’t make. Politicized justice (just for the talking point — no punishment) in a biased NY legal system that you ate up! Naive…


    GOOD DAY
     
  8. deb4rockets

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    LOL

    Naive.........

    Believing a pathological lying con over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.
     
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    @deb4rockets watch this when you have time. Amazing analysis
     
  10. deb4rockets

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    I'll check it out later.
     
  11. deb4rockets

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    Yeah, exactly right!

    She should have gotten a life sentence at least.

    Johnson suggested that he would not be in favor of Maxwell getting presidential clemency.

    “If you’re asking my opinion, 20 years was a pittance. I think she should have a life sentence at least,” Johnson told the show. “Think of all these unspeakable crimes, and as you noted earlier, probably 1,000 victims. “It’s hard to put into words how evil this was and that she orchestrated it and was a big part of it,” he said. “I think it is an unforgivable thing. So again, not my decision, but I have great pause about that, as any reasonable person would.”

    https://nypost.com/2025/07/27/us-news/mike-johnson-backs-ghislaine-maxwell-speaking-on-epstein/
     
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    Screenshot_20250804-145133.png Screenshot_20250804-145037.png

    Maxwell's Conviction in 2021

    “A unanimous jury has found Ghislaine Maxwell guilty of one of the worst crimes imaginable – facilitating and participating in the sexual abuse of children. Crimes that she committed with her long-time partner and co-conspirator, Jeffrey Epstein.

    From at least 1994, up to and including in or about 2004, GHISLAINE MAXWELL assisted, facilitated, and participated in Jeffrey Epstein’s abuse of minor girls by, among other things, helping Epstein to recruit, groom, and ultimately abuse victims known to MAXWELL and Epstein to be under the age of 18. The victims were as young as 14 years old when they were groomed and abused by MAXWELL and Epstein, both of whom knew that their victims were in fact minors.

    https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/statement-us-attorney-damian-williams-verdict-us-v-ghislaine-


    So why did Trump say this in 2002?

    “I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy.”

    “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.”

    You do the math. The recruiting and grooming was all happening when Trump, Epstein, and Maxwell were all good friends. Terrific guy, as he said. :eek:

    The photos below were in 2000.

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    no morals…no values…no shame
     
  14. krosfyah

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    The whole point of America is the value of separating from a monarchy. Some noteworthy quotes:

    “When all government, in little as in great things, shall be drawn to Washington as the center of all power, it will render powerless the checks provided of one government on another, and will become as venal and oppressive as the government from which we separated.”
    Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Charles Hammond, August 18, 1821

    “The tendency of a republican government is to an aggrandizement of the executive power till it terminates in a monarchy.”
    Alexander Hamilton, June 18, 1787, Constitutional Convention
     
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    Of course they would...............on this board alone I bet its 100% of trump supporters. He can do no wrong in their eyes, why an adult worships a politician as if he were the second coming is beyond me, but here`s the thing, if they admit that they have to admit they have been wrong for a decade and they simply WONT do it.............................they all see parts of themselves in trumps dna, there a tad racist so they don't care if trump is racist, deep down even if they won't say it they know. trump cheats on his wife(s), hell they have friends who have done that (or more realistic, they have done this) and there still friends so at the end of the day it's not that bad. trump says he is just like them and will stand up for them.......someone less qualified at the job got a promotion over you, well it must be dei cause I am better than that person................oh and there not white, hell no. All they see if the bright shiny object and feel he will take care of THEM and we see how that has worked for a few Latinos

    For some weird reason, they will ride or die with him.....................benefits be dammed, 401K be dammed, healthcare in rural America be dammed. The list goes on and on

    trump will go down as the biggest con artist in History...........................let's hope he doesn't drag the rest of us down with him
     
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  16. krosfyah

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    He already has. There are 10 steps to autocracy. Only one step remains, "cancel future elections". To that, he said he's already looking into it.

    I grew up thinking about the gulag camps in Siberia. This is where Navalny was sentenced and died in prison. We remember the Japanese internment camps. Now we have "Alligator Alley". Just this week, we had a Koren student here legally that was snatched from NYC and flown to Alligator Ally.
     
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    That's some sick mentality there.
     
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    Of course she didn't say anything harmful about Trump. That was the plan all along. Magically, after the interview, that child groomer for pedos gets shipped away to a country club prison. What a crock. Disgusting what Trump and his Brown Shirts will do to save his nasty creepy self from the truth.
     
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