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Trump is who they voted for.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by edwardc, Dec 4, 2024.

  1. raining threes

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    You don't understand that most dairy farmers are up at 4 am working. Have you ever been to a dairy farm, worked at a dairy farm? If not then you don't know what you're talking about.
     
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    The economy is wrecked?

    LMAO
     
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    Oxford, enough said
     
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    Bottom line is Trump is doing exactly what I voted for.
     
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    Where do you get your information from?
     
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    We just had the worst 3 months of job growth in almost 15+ years and your MAGATs will tell you the economy is booming. Its a mental disease
     
  7. Sajan

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    He makes it up. Obviously.
     
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    The funniest thing is every city he mentioned (LA, CHICAGO, NYC) saw violent crime down 25%+ over the past 3 years. These folks dont live in reality based world. Its a fox news driven narrative of the world
     
  9. Buck Turgidson

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    England or Mississippi?
     
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    Raping women and children?

    You are a sad person - who embraces cruelty, probably because you have been bullied your whole life and are so miserable inside that you wish that on others.....

    SAD person.

    DD
     
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    Securing the border, enforcing the laws that are on the books. Having other countries pay their fair share. Not paying Medicaid for ILLEGALS, having able bodied people work 20 hours a week to be eligible for Medicaid. Yeah I'm cruel. LMAO

    Do you believe in laws and borders? I would say illegals killing innocent citizens is pretty cruel.

    Wrong, I haven't been bullied, nor did I bully people.
     
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  12. raining threes

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    Both, LOL
     
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    Yeah information like the border is secure.
     
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    @Sajan these morons are still claiming foreign countries are paying the tariff lol. Its a mental disease these individual have

    Calling MAGA morons is doing a disservice to morons.
     
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    To the 5% of posters having a kind of serious discussion here, the immigration labor situation is what some in the Trump admin (the Stephen Millers) are actually hoping for. They want the economic pain, because their belief is that to improve the livelihoods for multigenerational Americans that have been forgotten by globalization, education is not the answer, tech is not the answer, and immigration is definitely not the answer. The Stephen Miller faction of the Trump admin is hoping for an America where mostly white's, but other long-rooted Americans (natives don't count), will once again do jobs that existed decades ago at much higher wages than now. The economic trade-off for this faction is that we may have to live in a world where TVs are the prices that existed prior to flat screen ubiquity - remember those giant aquarium type TVs that were priced like used vehicles?

    While I get that Miller vision, I think there are major flaws there. One, it takes decades to reconfigure the supply chain to actually have many of those types of jobs again in the US. Two, even with certain trade deals in place (which are much weaker now in terms of protectionism than was announced during liberation day), the incentives for on-shoring production may not be enough to get companies to do what's needed to fulfill Miller's vision. Three, I don't think Americans in general, would be accepting of going to that world where everything is expensive for the lower class and lower middle class and even middle class. We've had generations of over-buying and new houses and remodels reflect the modern America of needing storage. Maybe we should change our buying habits as a society, from a moral standpoint, but that's not how we've been, and I don't think that's how most want it to be.
     
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    Neither are in the Ivy League, btw.
     
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    One is the Ivy League of Great Britain. The other is ... The Ivy League of the South. LOL
     
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    Exactly.

    The ship has sailed with America being home to all the manufacturing.
    People want bigger homes. Cheaper cars. Cheaper everything all while getting $30 an hour and 4 weeks of PTO..and companies making profit.
    It ain't happening.

    One of the guys I was talking to said, well these other countries would be nothing with us buying their stuff. They wouldn't have anyone to sell it to.
    Sure but have you met Americans? We are a society of overconsumption. The way we eat, what we drive, the stuff we buy......That demand ain't going anyway.
     
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    This is a bit off tangent, but I'm skeptical of most attempts to mold an economic system into an ideal model. Usually, the goals start off sounding quite noble, such as a wish to level the playing field or offer a decent wage for all.

    In reality, however, the policies often get warped along the way, usually by the policymakers themselves, who can't help but seek personal profit within the system. So, even if a supply chain gets successfully reconfigured and brought into the U.S., I'd be worried that it would only benefit companies and individuals connected to those in positions of political power.

    And of course, this has happened many times over in various countries and governments, usually when there aren't strong checks and balances to prohibit such exploitations from occurring.
     

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