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Why is Trump covering up the Epistein files and lying to the public?

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  1. No Worries

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    Ladies and Gentlemen, here we have an official Republican Talking Point:

     
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  2. Amiga

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    why would they do that?

    im on the bandwagon now - release the files
     
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  3. Reeko

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    Kash Patel directed FBI special agents from the New York and Washington field offices to join the bureau’s FOIA employees at its sprawling Central Records Complex in Winchester, Virginia and another building a few miles away.

    They were instructed to search for and review every single Epstein-related document and determine what could be released. That included a mountain of material accumulated by the FBI over nearly two decades, including grand jury testimony, prosecutors’ case files, as well as tens of thousands of pages of the bureau’s own investigative files on Epstein. It was a herculean task that involved as many as 1,000 FBI agents and other personnel pulling all-nighters while poring through more than 100,000 documents, according to a July letter from Senator Dick Durbin to Bondi.

    Senior officials at the FBI’s Record/Information Dissemination Section, which handles the processing of FOIA requests, pushed back on the directives. Michael Seidel, the section chief of RIDS who worked at the FBI for about 14 years, was quite vocal, the three people familiar with the matter told me. Patel blamed him for the failure to send all of the Epstein files to Bondi. Then, a couple of months ago, Seidel was told he could either retire or be fired, according to the people. He chose the former and quietly left the FBI, the people said. The details related to Seidel’s exit haven’t been previously reported.

    Seidel could not be reached for comment.

    The FBI employees reviewed the records using the Freedom of Information Act as their guide for deciding what information should be withheld. That alone isn’t uncommon. In the FOIA, Congress established nine exemptions as a way to balance the public’s right to know against the government’s need to protect sensitive interests, such as national security, official deliberations, ongoing law enforcement proceedings or privacy. When such competing interests arise in non-FOIA matters, those exemptions are often applied even if the exact language set forth in the FOIA statute doesn’t appear in the final record.

    For example, when congressional committees request documents from, say, the FBI or the Justice Department, FOIA analysts and contractors are brought in to review the records and apply redactions in accordance with the law. When the DOJ prepared to publicly release former Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s report on Russia’s interference in the 2016 election, FOIA exemptions were used to determine what information should be withheld.
     
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    While reviewing the Epstein files, FBI personnel identified numerous references to Trump in the documents, the people familiar with the matter told me. Dozens of other high-profile public figures also appeared, the people said. (The appearance of Trump’s name or others in the Epstein files is not evidence of a crime or even a suggestion of wrongdoing.)

    In preparation for potential public release, the documents then went to a unit of FOIA officers who applied redactions in accordance with the nine exemptions. The people familiar with the matter said that Trump’s name, along with other high-profile individuals, was blacked out because he was a private citizen when the federal investigation of Epstein was launched in 2006.

    In particular, the reviewers applied two FOIA exemptions to justify their redactions. The first, Exemption 6, protects individuals against “a clearly unwarranted invasion of personal privacy.” The Supreme Court has said the exemption protects "individuals from the injury and embarrassment" that would result from the disclosure of personal information in possession of the government.

    The second, Exemption 7(C), protects personal information contained in law enforcement records, the disclosure of which “could reasonably be expected to constitute an unwarranted invasion of personal privacy.”

    A White House spokesperson would not respond to questions about the redactions of Trump’s name, instead referring questions to the FBI. The FBI declined to comment. The Justice Department did not respond to multiple requests for comment.

    That brings us up to today. After the FBI redacted the Epstein files, they were sent to Bondi. (Media reports said Bondi briefed Trump at the White House in May and told him he was named in the files.)

    Then, on July 8, the Justice Department and FBI released an unsigned joint statement that said the FBI collected more than 300 gigabytes of data and physical evidence related to the Epstein investigation. However, the promises of “transparency” made earlier by Bondi and Patel didn’t materialize.

    “While we have labored to provide the public with maximum information regarding Epstein,” the statement read, “it is the determination of the Department of Justice and the Federal Bureau of Investigation that no further disclosure would be appropriate or warranted.” The officials added that “much of the information is subject to court-ordered sealing.”

    The statement ignited a firestorm on social media. Trump's most ardent supporters were furious with Bondi and the president. They said it was a cover-up. The influential podcaster Joe Rogan recently accused the administration of “trying to gaslight” his supporters over Epstein.

    Trump, meanwhile, has tried to contain the fallout. He lashed out at his base in a series of posts on his social media platform, Truth Social, and blamed Democrats for the “fake” Epstein scandal.
     
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  6. deb4rockets

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    WTH is going on? They should have moved her to Alligator Alley instead. A child groomer and recruiter for a pedo sex trafficking girls should rot behind bars. If they release her it will be complete hypocrisy over their stance against sex traffickers and child rapists and pedos, all for coverup for Trump's nasty criminal ass.
     
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  7. rimrocker

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    Where in Texas and in which federal judge's district?

    Also, you know who was in a number of photos with Epstein and Maxwell but has so far escaped any scrutiny? That would be our First Lady. It'd be interesting to question her, particularly if she claimed spousal privilege. But of course, no federal law enforcement officer will.
     
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  8. rimrocker

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    Turns out she's now in Bryan.

    Oh, by the way, you know who is not eligible for transfer to federal minimum security prisons? Folks with more than half their sentence left and sex offenders. She met neither criteria. So much so, that someone had to waive the requirements and allow her to be transferred.

    There must be some really bad stuff in those Epstein files.
     
  9. VooDooPope

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    trump is a pedo
     
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  10. SamFisher

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    I honestly don't get how badly they are handling this, usually just lying or ignoring allegations works out great for them but every single move they make is like onlly a thing you'd do if the most insane conspiracy theories are true.
     
  11. Amiga

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    Statement from victim family:

    “It is with horror and outrage that we object to the preferential treatment convicted sex trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell has received. Ghislaine Maxwell is a sexual predator who physically assaulted minor children on multiple occasions, and she should never be shown any leniency. Yet, without any notification to the Maxwell victims, the government overnight has moved Maxwell to a minimum security luxury prison in Texas. This is the justice system failing victims right before our eyes. The American public should be enraged by the preferential treatment being given to a pedophile and a criminally charged child sex offender. The Trump administration should not credit a word Maxwell says, as the government itself sought charges against Maxwell for being a serial liar. This move smacks of a cover up. The victims deserve better.”

    Annie Farmer
    Maria Farmer
    Sky and Amanda Roberts (family of Virginia Roberts Giuffre)
    Lanette and Danny Wilson (family of Virginia Roberts Giuffre
     
  12. justtxyank

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    Absolutely outrageous what's happening.
     
  13. rimrocker

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    I think it is now closer to reality than theory. There's definitely a conspiracy to prevent the public from knowing what's in the files and getting a better picture of what really happened. That's obvious and it doesn't happen without something worth the coverup.
     
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    Disgusting.
     
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    Does anyone seriously think that she will rat out trump?
    They have a deal in place. . . been had a deal in place.
    She will be weaponized against his enemies
    Then unleashed. . . . .will probably get a book and talk show tour

    They already started calling to her a "VICTIM"
    WTF

    Rocket River
     
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    And how the holy hell does a sexual predator get to serve time in a minimum-security prison, shes at the same place as the lady who stole millions from her blood testing company....................Maxwell had victims who were minors.

    I also think its a tad odd that she is being moved now...........are they just waiting for Patel`s minions to go through the files and redact gop names. They could not have handled this any worse, thats what happens when you hire folks who are not competent. For as out of it as Biden was, he still had folks who could run the country and not F it up everyday and have a humming economy when they left. How`s that $6.00 LB hamburger tasting about now
     
  17. DaDakota

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    They removed the "sexual predator" tag from Maxwell so they could move her to a minimum security prison in Texas.

    Here we go, they are protecting the people that SCREWED children instead of the victims...

    The GOP is one CORRUPT mother ****ing group of people.

    DD
     
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    There's an entirely different justice system under Trump, and it reeks of corruption! The worst part of all is that the convicted felon has put loyal Brown Shirts in charge of everything! We aren't talking party Republicans. We are talking about loyalists who defended that felon before he was elected, lied for him, and can't be trusted. We are talking about his personal lawyers and biggest butt kissing hypocrites willing to kiss the orange butt and smile while doing it, then praising him for how great he is.

    They have all been appointed to use their power to cover his ass in everything he does, illegal or not. Folks, we are past the point of being a Democratic Nation, and have entered the point of what people feared most. A government that puts Trump above the law above all else, and is willing to help vile and predatory sex trafficking pedos, if that's what it takes. I don't even believe for one second they won't lie, deceive, and alter the facts, or eliminate those they are protecting from sworn statements, in their so-called Department of Justice and FBI, with Trump Brown Shirts in charge. I sure as hell don't believe a word out of that rich b*tch's mouth, who wants nothing more than to walk free and get back to her high society privileged lifestyle.

    You are absolutely stupid to trust a pathological liar, con, and felon as your President, and even more stupid to trust anything out of the mouth of a sex trafficking pedo and groomer.

    The families of the victims said it best, except for leaving out preferential treatment for Trump above all else....

    "President Trump has sent a clear message today: Pedophiles deserve preferential treatment and their victims do not matter.”
     
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  19. justtxyank

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    It's pretty obvious that they are slow walking the roll out of her exonerating Trump and supporting accusations against his political enemies. It's gross as hell. For the record I'm not saying he actually did anything with Epstein's girls, but he's definitely weaponizing her now.
     
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    Complete silence from the maga supporters who 3 weeks ago were so concerned about pedophiles, and sex trafficking.

    Now that Ghislaine Maxwell is on your team complete silence.

    Any MAGA people want to say anything or should we just all assume you guys never cared about the victims and are now totally cool with sex trafficking and pedophilia??
     
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