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Israel Goes To War with Hamas 2023

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by astros123, Oct 6, 2023.

  1. kokozo

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    You said "clearly designated military bases under the hospitals", and and quoted an article saying "The spartan bunker was a far cry from the vast underground complex that the Israeli military said it found earlier in the war farther north, which included spacious white-tiled rooms, a blast-proof door, mechanical ventilation and ample space to accommodate weapons stockpiles." as if it proves you right.
     
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  2. Amiga

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    The U.S. military has caused civilian casualties, but unlike the current situation in Gaza, it has not, in its anti-terrorism efforts, systematically blockaded a population's vital supplies, leading to widespread hunger and ICJ allegations of starvation as a weapon and genocide.
     
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    Washingtonpost
     
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    "C'mon kids, hurry up and put your shoes on so we can block aid from reaching a starving population!"

    So funny when the zionists try to the make the argument that Palestinian children are indoctrinated to "hate the Jews" while simultaneously doing things like this with their own children.
     
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    Over 1,000 Gaza aid-seekers killed by Israeli forces since May: U.N. : NPR

    A joint statement from 28 Western-aligned countries on Monday condemned the "the drip feeding of aid and the inhumane killing of civilians."

    "The Israeli government's aid delivery model is dangerous, fuels instability and deprives Gazans of human dignity," read the statement, which was signed by the United Kingdom, France and other countries friendly to Israel. "The Israeli government's denial of essential humanitarian assistance to the civilian population is unacceptable."

    https://share.google/IiePvhmfE7Dr4WZ7Y
     
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  6. lionaire

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    All of the actions they took against foreign aid distributers such as framing the UN/UNWRA as Hamas, firing at aid trucks, bombing the distribution sites and vehicles of the World Central Kitchen, claiming Hamas was "stealing aid" and ultimately dismantling all of the infrastructure in place for aid distribution was so that the responsibility would get handed over to them and they would be able to do things like this.

    The first-hand accounts of the GHF experience, whether it's by the American contractors working on this operation or the aid-seekers themselves have been absolutely horrifying. These people are traveling 10-20 miles one way on foot while absolutely famished, wait in line for hours on end and when the gates open they are only allowed a few minutes to get what they can before the genocide perpetrators begin open firing on them.
     
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    It's horrifying indeed. For those who do live, the trauma will last for years, and the parents and children disfigured and killed repeatedly seeking aid while starving is beyond barbaric and cruel.
     
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    what is NPR's source?
     
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    Read the article.
     
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    I asked grok to develop a hybrid methodology to determine a conservative lower bound in total civilian deaths in Gaza. It incorporated statistics from GHM, Lancet study on systematic undercounting of traumatic deaths due to the conflict, and indirect deaths due to starvation and disease resulting from the conflict. Its conservative lower bound turned out to be about 98,000, with a most likely estimate being around 210,000. Out of a total population of about 2 million.
     
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    @lionaire the MAGATS were lying like usual
     
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  12. basso

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    I'm good.
     
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    And Israel is supposed to be the "Chosen People", I am sure this is exactly how Jesus would deal with starving kids :rolleyes:

    Nice move by the US for letting a months' worth of food expire that was earmarked for Children................but all we hear from the gop is, THE KIDS, THE KIDS................save the kids so we can starve them later in life. What a joke
     
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  14. basso

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    one wonders where y'all get your news.
     
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    You've made it clear that you don't read but this news has been confirmed by Kan, the national public broadcaster of the occupied state.

    The spoiled aid, left rotting at the Kerem Shalom crossing for weeks, was buried or burned. “We buried everything in the ground, even burned some of it,” said an Israeli army source. “Even today, there are thousands of packages waiting in the sun. If they are not transferred into Gaza, we will be forced to destroy them too.”

    The aid totaled over 1,000 truckloads, the source added.

    Military officials blamed the destruction on what they called a failed aid distribution mechanism, referring to the Israeli-US Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (GHF). “The mechanism simply doesn’t work,” one officer said. “The trucks are stuck. There is no functioning coordination. The roads are damaged. Nothing is moving.”


    https://www.kan.org.il/content/kan-news/defense/935178/
     
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    Many of the current supporters are anti-semites. They honestly believe that Jews unlike the rest of humans cannot be committing the genocide we all see on the news every day.
     
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    I understand that Israel sees this as an opportunity to defeat Hamas once and for all, but this is some truly evil s**t.
     
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    Lots of Hamas sympathetic wokes cite 59,000 Palestinians killed but here's the catch ...according to Gaza's Health Ministry; Its count doesn't distinguish between militants and civilians in that number ...everyone is supposedly "innocent" including everything they did on Oct 7 against genuine innocent civilians ...the "innocent Palestinians" voted for the government of Hamas.

    Remember that Hamas, the government of Gaza which the people voted for stated that Palestinian civilian deaths ARE necessary. In effect the people of Gaza agree that their deaths are necessary in some twisted hate induced mindset. They cheered and threw rocks at all the captured Israelis and spit on the dead bodies after Oct 7

    Was Oct 7th worth the suffering they are experiencing now? For Hamas the answer is an absolute yes because they love death just as their enemies love life.

    it didn't have to be this way but Hamas needs to experience their love for death and have that realized.
     
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    It shouldn't take one American whistleblower to verify this in people's minds. Doctors and health workers from around the world have been reporting on this for months. Folks spew **** like "That's who they voted for" to make themselves feel better about babies and kids being dismembered, starved and killed.

    Crimes against humanity are exactly that. It doesn't matter which government rules the victims.

    Do American civilians deserve to be victims of genocide, ethnic cleansing, starvation, and getting arms and legs blown off by other nations because of who we voted for? Is it not a crime against humanity here if that happens, simply because of who we voted for? If people can have their homes burned, hospitals and schools bombed, get shot and killed trying to get food, and bombed in shelters that's ok because we voted for Trump? Spare me your ignorant disgusting logic please. There's enough sick people in the world already.
     
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