Do not fcking gaslight me. You damn well know that I never once advocated for getting the US into a war. I’ve tried to show you respect. Show a little back please and stop gaslighting. Just answer the simple question and tell us why you really feel this sense of loyalty? If you can’t be honest with us and continue to gaslight us, we have no reason to take anything you say here seriously. And it ain’t freaking MSM propapanda to believe that the US should discourage other countries invading their neighbors for resources and to subjugate their citizens. That’s just common fcking decency, and it doesn’t mean the US needs to go get in another war but it does mean that we can at the very least allow them to buy weapons from our US manufacturers to help defend themselves. Again that not MSM propaganda. It’s human decency.
I don't know what you're asking or saying...Hegseth did it on his own, never talked to the White House. This is very much proven.
I wasn't asking anything. I was quoting Trump's response to a reporter with Hegseth sitting next to him.
Marjorie Taylor Greene repeatedly used phrases like "I don't recall" or "I don't remember" during her testimony before the House January 6th Select Committee. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
Listen to the audio attached of Trump bragging about how tough he was on Putin last year. “With Putin I said, ‘If you go into Ukraine, I’m going to bomb the sh*t out of Moscow. I’m telling you I have no choice,’” Trump said during one 2024 fundraiser, according to the audio. “And then [Putin] goes, like, ‘I don’t believe you.’ But he believed me 10%.” Now he's in a bit of a pickle since Putin has blatantly scoffed at his previous threats ever since he's been back in office. He has to save face now that he's been played like a fiddle. Will he be tough or soft on his actions now? I'm sure a part of him is wetting his diaper at the fear of pissing off his first love too much. ................. His true colors really come out when he brags about his grifting on the audio tapes too. Trump bragged about convincing one wealthy donor who had offered a $1 million donation in exchange for lunch with him to instead increase the amount to $25 million. “And he did it, he gave me $25 million,” Trump said. “It’s crazy.” That's what it's really all about with him. Having the power to wheel and deal to enrich himself and his family empire for 4 years. It was and always will be about him, his personal feelings, and his retribution on anyone including reporters and the media who don't coddle him, praise him, kiss the ground he walks on, and put loyalty to Trump above all else. It's nothing more. It never will be. https://share.google/D3yTTUJkxN2pdNavr
This story is the stupidest story ever. Trump kills me with the ridiculous crap he says. Trump reveals Melania's key role in dealing with Putin on Ukraine war "I go home. I tell the first lady, ‘You know, I spoke to Vladimir today. We had a wonderful conversation.’ She said, ‘Oh, really? another city was just hit,'" he said. "There's times I'd get home. I'd say, 'First lady, I had the most wonderful talk with Vladimir. I think we're finished.' And then I'll turn on the television, or she'll say to me one time, ‘Wow, that’s strange because they just bombed a nursing home,'" Trump recalled in another conversation. "I'd say, ‘What?’" https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-reveals-melanias-key-role-dealing-putin-ukraine-war.amp First of all, I doubt Donald and his wife spend much time in the same household. Second of all, he calls her First Lady? Hahaha Then, she tells him Putin bombed Ukraine and it's news to him? Why wouldn't he have known that? Last, but not least, everyone's been saying Putin's been playing Trump forever. He was just too stupid to see it.
Gaslighting??? If you were against Dubya's war over alleged wmd, I did not know that. Are you saying you were also against the 20 year occupation of Afghanistan, the 20 year effort to overthrow the Syrian government, the overthrow of Qadafi etc, the effort to spit Sudan into rwo countries, -- in short the wars encouraged by the neo-cons? I gave you some of the sources that I trust more than the mainstream press. Appealing to simple human decency is not sufficient in a complex international problem after a coup in Ukraine we aided to overthrow an elected Ukrainian leader supported by the Eastern Russian ethnic, Russian speaking part of of Ukraine. This was a war we had no intention of ever entering, so Ukraine had no chance of winning. This is not to mention the danger of nuclear war. It was immoral in my opinion for the US to discourage a near completed negotiation which would have kept Ukraine after a promise to remain neutral i.e not to join NATO, with all its territory except for Crimea which has been a Russian naval base since around 1790, long before Ukraine was a country, except for when Kruschcev gave it to Ukraine in 1954. Can you sincerely say you would consider it simply a matter of simple human decency if the US found it threatening to have a joint Russian-China string of naval and military bases with nuclear weapons along the US southern borde?. Nook and others opine that Russia would have attacked and taken all of Ukraine anyway. I accept they believe this , but I do not believe that. I have provided a few of the sources I trust more than the mainstream media, based on mainstream past history of lying about wmd in Iraq for instance. [/QUOTE]
[/QUOTE] The problem with the Ukraine comparison to Iraq and pretty much every other example is there are clear black and white sides in Ukraine and Russia. That doesn't mean you should support Ukraine but it isn't a middle east Muslim we don't understand the nature of the disagreements situation
Yea.... Ukraine and Russia isn't like Iraq and Afghanistan. It's just a lazy comparison at best and just dishonesty at worst. Putin is imperialist because Russia has been imperialist for the better part of 3 centuries. Ukraine offers Russia buffer territory, population, agriculture, energy, and minerals.
Maybe vlad will bail Donny out and nuke Ukraine tomorrow . That's prolly the only thing that's a big enough distraction to stop the Epstein focus
The problem with the Ukraine comparison to Iraq and pretty much every other example is there are clear black and white sides in Ukraine and Russia. That doesn't mean you should support Ukraine but it isn't a middle east Muslim we don't understand the nature of the disagreements situation[/QUOTE] You are entitled to your black and white declarations.
Um yeah… Im a liberal surfer whose favorite bands are Radiohead and the Grateful Dead. I’m not sure who you think pro Democracy people are but they aren’t W supporters who claimed to be anti Bush when he left office in disgraced and then hitched their wagon to Trump. I also don’t think you have to purity test yourself on every conflict and just because the US is involved in any way it must be evil. You aren’t proving that you are morally superior by saying that the US cannot help a country defend itself from a brutal invading dictator just because we made mistakes in the past. Helping Putin roll over Ukraine and murdering thousands of innocent civilians in the process does not give you a grade A on the liberal purity test. What makes you pass the test is being able to evaluate every situation objectively and do the right thing in that moment. I have no doubt in my mind that giving Ukraine weapons to defend themselves is both strategically in the interest of western democracies and also the right fcking thing to do.
