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[Sociopath?] Kristy Noem Strutted & Preened while Kids Drowned in Texas

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by SamFisher, Jul 10, 2025 at 7:41 AM.

  1. AleksandarN

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    I want to see the horse video. Asking for a friend
     
  2. Xerobull

    Xerobull ...and I'm all out of bubblegum

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    A sign-off for $100k? What an insane bottleneck. If this is true, their blood is indeed partially on her hands.

    At the level of spending for FEMA, that’s like telling your spouse you have to approve of a dominos pizza purchase.
     
  3. Reeko

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    gotta penny pinch with people’s lives, but they got no problem blowing over 40 million dollars for Trump’s military birthday parade or adding almost 5 trillion to the deficit
     
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  4. HP3

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    Im not talking to you two directly but I just want to point out to lurkers that these posts are filled with misinformation and largely things you can disregard. Every time I have looked into any of their claims, its been filled with lies or misleading information.
     
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  5. Space Ghost

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    Yes, there is indeed massive amounts of misinformation. But it doesn't change that fact FEMA is an extremely poorly ran organization for decades. It does very little for the people in the immediate stage of disasters and it just gets in the way of immediate progress.
     
  6. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Yep, they are in the cult of Propaganda - and as such can't discern truth from lies.

    DD
     
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  7. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Bullshit......this is just general bullshit.

    While FEMA could always do better, they have helped MILLIONS Of Americans only now that it is being cut and we have kids dying because of some cuts that we hear this garbage.

    This whole, the government can't run anything efficiently is just one big old lie told to stupid people so they vote against their own best interests, and line the billionaires pockets.

    Once people get together we are the power, only by dividing us by lying and ignorance can the GOP even hope to stay in power, they are not Republicans anymore they are Facists.

    NOEM is an incompetent idiot - a puppy killer - we have the DUMBEST among us in positions of power, disgraceful.


    DD
     
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  8. Space Ghost

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    Your reading comprehension sucks.

    FEMA is good at handing out money. Thats it. They suck at emergency management.

    I am not sure what the kerrville floods have to do with this topic. Money doesn't bring back dead people. You treat life like a video game. grow up.
     
  9. SamFisher

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    You're advising at least 1, maybe 2 bots (in the literal sense) to not spread misinformation?

    Buddy, it's why they exist.
     
  10. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Then point out the misinformation if there is any. You can’t because you lack the intellectual horsepower. May I ask you to state your educational credentials? Since you have self appointed yourself as the arbiter of truth, then please share why you should hold this role. If I were to guess, you likely attended Univ of Phoenix or Prairie View.

    GOOD DAY
     
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  11. Rashmon

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    There is blood on the hands of the brainwashed and braindead dip$hit cult supporting Kerr County Commissioners...

    Kerr County leaders delayed critical funds over 'Biden mandates'

    A newly surfaced video shows Kerr County commissioners and residents in 2021 delaying over $10 million in federal funds—dismissing it as "Biden money"—that could have been used for critical infrastructure upgrades. The decision is now under fire after the destructive July 4 Texas floods exposed weaknesses in the county's emergency systems.

    In a November 2021 Kerr County Commissioners' Court meeting, officials debated whether to accept American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) funds aimed at improving storm drainage, communications systems, and public safety facilities. Instead, citing fears of federal overreach, political mistrust, and potential mandates, a majority of the court opted to hold the money for the interim. The court ultimately reversed course months later, voting 4–1 to accept the ARPA funds in January of 2022.

    In the video, Commissioners Harley Belew, Jonathan Letz, Tom Moser and Don Harris, along with County Judge Rob Kelly, debated whether to accept the funding. Despite warnings about urgent needs—like the sheriff department's outdated communications system—the court ultimately voted 3–2 to delay or decline using the money.

    "We have an untrustworthy administration," said Commissioner Belew. "They've lied to us numerous times and used the virus to get what they want… I don't trust them. This money could come with mandates later."

    Commissioner Letz pushed back, noting that some uses—such as upgrading law enforcement radio systems—were both essential and time-sensitive. "The Sheriff's Department needs to be able to communicate with the Kerrville Police and Fire Departments. Right now, we cannot do that," Letz warned.

    County Judge Kelly, who struck a more cautious middle ground, emphasized the court had five years to decide what to do with the funds and that none had been spent. "We've got $5.1 million sitting there earning interest," he said. "Why send it back to Washington if we can keep it right here under this Court's control?"

    Judge Kelly echoed Letz's concerns, calling it a "huge public safety issue." He added that the City of Kerrville was planning to upgrade its system to a 700 MHz standard—and if the county didn't follow suit, firefighters, sheriff's deputies, and paramedics wouldn't be able to talk to each other in a crisis.

    That crisis came sooner than expected.

    On July 4, torrential rains dumped several inches of water across the Hill Country, swelling creeks and rivers past their banks. Roads washed out, and stranded residents climbed to rooftops, waiting for rescue.

    More than 120 have been reported dead—and more than 160 remain missing—after the devastating flood.

    At the November 2021 meeting, residents voiced grave concerns about the strings attached to the American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) funds. Then-President Joe Biden signed ARPA—a $1.9 trillion federal stimulus package meant to aid the nation's economic recovery amid the going COVID-19 pandemic—into law in March of 2021.

    "Accepting the ARPA money and putting our County under existing and future executive orders would federalize us and make us all slaves," said Richard King, a 30-year Kerr County resident and Air Force veteran. King urged officials to reject the funds outright, citing the risk of losing local control and facing massive financial penalties.

    "We're not talking about a million dollars—we're talking about $10.1 million," King said. "I don't think any paycheck in this County could cover that."

    Shari Snyder, a resident who spoke next, was even more direct, warning the commissioners that accepting the funds could bring lasting harm. "If you vote to keep Biden's money, I will hold you personally responsible and personally liable for any and all harm that comes to me and my family, as well as the residents of this county," she declared.
     
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    Sick cultists.
     
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    LOL
     
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  14. rimrocker

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    LOL. What a peculiar reply considering in my post I mentioned neither expertise nor FEMA. Quite the example of the third option in this Carl Sandburg quote:

    “If the facts are against you, argue the law. If the law is against you, argue the facts. If the law and the facts are against you, pound the table and yell like hell.”

    In my mind, that always conjures images of a whiny, teary, red-faced baby. Sometimes though, I think of an arsonist.

    Let's take 'em one by one so you can run off and try to light fires somewhere else. Given the scattershot post you made, I'll respond in an order that provides at least some semblance of coherent thought.

    I agree with these words, mostly. There are many in emergency management and response, including me, who have criticized FEMA over the years and advocated for changes. The one thing we critics agree on is that FEMA should be removed from DHS. FEMA is a domestic agency focused on disasters within our borders. The rest of DHS is focused on terrorism and border issues outside the country (Coast Guard has a dual role sometimes). FEMA will never fit with that group and indeed, during both 45 and 47, we've seen money siphoned from FEMA to pay for other administration priorities.

    Another problem is that the Stafford Act is too passive and assumes that every elected official in the "disaster declaration" chain will operate with the best interests of those affected by disasters in mind. That's clearly not always the case as federal disaster relief actions are now provided in large part based on the whims of one guy who only looks at the political leanings of the community where the disaster took place. New laws are needed to address both these issues. Related, there's too much deference given to approving presidential appointees, who can have a tremendous effect on response and recovery. Remember Brownie? Have you seen the current FEMA guy since the flooding? Do you even know his name? At a minimum there should be a requirement that the head of FEMA have some solid emergency management experience at a coordination level.

    Then there's the whole aftermath of 9-11. FEMA was thrown into DHS and the National Response Framework (NRF) was quickly put in place. But it was all a reaction to a terrorist attack. We didn't stop and think through the problems for the myriad of other types of disasters. In many cases, the NRF just gave new titles to the existing agency and departmental leadership yet during disasters, you cannot afford to do business as usual, as we have seen with the Secretary and her contracts. It takes too much time--you need streamlined but tested and practiced processes. Given the complexities of today and with an eye on what 2050 will likely look like, many of us have advocated for less prescriptive disaster legislation. Providing clear objectives and giving responders the freedom to make decisions in response to conditions is a much better way to go about directing emergency management and response.

    All that said, FEMA and the NRF as they are is what we have now and since we are nowhere close to getting new disaster legislation or reforming the emergency management systems in this country, it's up to us to make it work as best as we are able. That would be so much easier if it weren't being sabotaged and corrupted by current leadership.

    It's crystal clear that he cares little about mission of any kind. Still, let's unpack this a bit.

    States once had the lead on disasters. Makes sense, right? After all, aren't disasters local? Yes, except when they aren't. The big change happened with the Mississippi flood of 1927 when millions of acres were flooded and over 1.5 million people had to flee their homes. The states were so overwhelmed that a guy named Herbert Hoover was sent by President Coolidge after the governors of six states got together and begged for federal help. In the years after, ad hoc federal assistance bounced around between Commerce, the Reconstruction Finance Corporation, HUD, and others while the Army Corps of Engineers and the Bureau of Reclamation were given some flood control duties. There was also a big link with civil defense during the height of the Cold War. Fast forward to the 1970's when a number of floods and tornado outbreaks (that nobody could have foreseen or predicted!) led to a consensus that the feds needed to take the lead on some aspects of disaster management and FEMA was formed in 1978. Going back to a state run approach does not solve anything and makes many things worse. For one, state taxes will need to be raised. For another, there's only so much expertise available. With federal coordination, everyone has access but if states start to hunker down with a bunker mentality and not let their folks go assist others, you end up isolating the needed expertise. When people talk about decentralizing disaster response and giving it back to the states, it's a huge sign that they don't have a clue or just really don't care.

    [​IMG]

    (Breaking this up into two posts because Clutch has a limit of 10,000 characters.)
     
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    Part 2...

    Of course it can. We do it all the time with dams, levees, emergency alert systems, building and zoning codes, etc. Same with earthquakes and building codes, tsunami warning systems and escape routes, tornado sirens, and a host of other measures designed to save lives and livelihoods should a natural hazard manifest in a place with a bunch of humans. In this case, campgrounds and buildings were built in the flood plain, no functional and inclusive emergency alert system was in place, and local officials were, at best, inattentive to the increasing risk. Those are all failures of local government--the folks you want to let run all emergency management functions. It never has to be that way and your remark wants us to just accept death and destruction, much like we are expected to accept little kids getting shot up in their classrooms. No.

    Sigh. Before Helene made landfall, Biden had issued emergency declarations for Florida, Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, Tennessee, and Virginia which allowed prepositioning of resources. FEMA doesn't have much an on-the-ground response component but they are in charge of coordinating it all, so they typically call in state, local, and fed resources from around the country, which is what they did in NC--and they did it quickly. While that was going on, there were a number of insane rumors being spread by mostly right-wing sites which led some folks to issue physical threats against FEMA and other feds. If you recall, there was a US Forest Service crew there to clear downed trees who had to be delayed one day because of threats. An armed guy was arrested for making threats. Given all that, some responders were wary and in Florida--not North Carolina--one person who advised workers to avoid houses with Trump signs if they did not feel safe was fired for doing so. Not administrators plural, but one person working with a small group.

    This has been a growing problem for responders. The number of armed confrontations with wildland firefighters has sharply risen in recent years and just a few days ago, a right-wing nut killed two Idaho firefighters and injured others. We have a duty to serve the whole community but that is not an expectation that we will ignore risk and put ourselves in a position where we might might get injured or killed. Unfortunately, mis- and dis-information are now immediate drivers of outrage and agitation during disasters, which are already incredibly stressful events for all involved.

    The people playing politics with Helene aid were Republicans who stood in the way of funding for Helene and other disasters such that FEMA spent down accounts and had to start borrowing from the next fiscal year. The people playing politics are the current administration who have denied a slew of subsequent Helene recovery aid and even made the Arkansas governor beg for weeks before getting aid approved. They are the ones threatening to withhold aid to California because it is a Democratic state, even though more Republicans live there than any other state except Texas.

    By no objective measure is this remotely true.

    TLDR: Best to sit this one out, Champ.
     
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  16. rimrocker

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    As far as disasters go, that's not a huge call volume. I would expect to see that number from a large fire that burned some homes in Montana or Idaho.

    A large fire in California or Washington? Many more calls. A hurricane in Florida or Texas? Several orders of magnitude.

    If we can't do this one right, we've got a major problem.
     
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    this dog deleter and Trump toe taster has no business being in the position she’s in

    totally unqualified…utterly incompetent
     
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