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Not resigning Kikuchi was a colossal mistake

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by strosb4bros, Jul 11, 2025 at 11:39 PM.

  1. strosb4bros

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    3 years , $60 million is nothing for a starter who eats up innings with a high whiff rate and proved himself as an Astro. You get not being able to resign Cole when he is offered $300 million.. but this , is UNACCEPTABLE!!

    The pitching staff has been propped up by no name overperformers this year but everyone reverts to the mean eventually. Retaining Framber is likely going to be too expensive. That leaves 1 real starter going forward and a whole bunch of injured question marks.

    Incredibly short sighted from the front office - they know they have trouble retaining high price talent, but somehow... are also content to let affordable options slip through their fingers.
     
  2. Justin Thomas

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    I was surprised they didn’t fight harder to keep him, but if there’s any staff I trust with pitching it’s ours.

    Solid argument could be made that money is better off spent finding depth in the lineup or going towards Frambler
     
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    The money went to Walker. Sucks it hasn't worked out so far but we definitely needed another bat more than we needed a starting pitcher. One could argue that is still the case.
     
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    I wanted them to sign Pivetta this off-season. In their defense, we have lost both Blanco and Wesneski in the last few months.
    We have no choice but to trade for a pitcher now.
     
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    Yeah didn't like it but they figured they had enough starting pitching.
     
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    Like with Verlander going to the Mets, the cost of signing a player is also prospect retention to keep from thinning out the farm, trading.. for a player you already could have kept. So now its gonna thin away more players dealing them.. to get a Kikuchi type pitcher. I didnt like letting him go either. Oh well now.
     
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    Arighetti's new thumb is almost fully grown....
     
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    They were dumping money with Tucker and Pressly just to sign Walker and pay Paredes.

    Crane wasn't going over the CBT.
     
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    At this point, I think it borders on naivety to think we're going to successfully re-sign Framber.
     
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    I miss the You say after the strikeout and Verlander singing along.
    Best of times.
     
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    I don't think anybody reasonably could have accounted for 3/5 of your rotation going down in the opening month, it's really easy to say in hindsight.

    Nobody knows for sure who is gonna be good next season, particularly with our pitching development. I can guarantee nobody here had Framber down as a rotation anchor after the 2019 season.
     
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    He was a free agent. What makes you think he wanted to stay here? Japanese players often choose west coast teams (and NY) because of the communities and the history of other Japanese players with those teams. It's the second time in his career that he could choose his home and the last time he picked a west coast team also (Seattle). Neither Toronto or Houston were places he chose.

    Beyond that, the Astros had a full slate of pitchers already and more pressing needs on offense. There's not a lot that can be done when you lose multiple pitchers and others have recovery setbacks. Even with all that, the Astros starting pitching has not remotely been their problem.
     
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    Do we know if they tried?

    What evidence do we have that Dana didn't offer a reasonable deal and Mikuchi simply chose to leave.

    Teams don't choose if FAs stay, the players have the freedom to choose.

    It's ridiculous to say " The Astros didn't keep him and should have "
     
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