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2025 Hypothetical Astros Trades Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Snake Diggit, Apr 9, 2025.

  1. Justin Thomas

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    Is Altuve really that bad defensively? His range is quickly shrinking but are the numbers really so bad he can’t stay at 2B?

    Moving him made sense when we got Paredes and were still trying to keep Bregman, but after Bregman left moving Altuve off 2B just seems unnecessary
     
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  2. BlindHog

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    I have been for trading Yordan for the last couple of years now and caught a lot of flak over it. We may have missed out on getting the most out of trading him but it still makes good sense to get talks active and serious. Baseball is a team sport. Baseing your personnel decisions on a single player is always a mistake. As soon as he gets back and appears healthy it would be awfully nice to have some talks already underway. I would plan to put him in left field full time till he is traded, and try to move him before the next inevitable injury occurs.
     
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  3. Snake Diggit

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    Altuve was never a very good defensive player, as he has always been prone to missed/flubbed balls and poor throws. When he was young he had agility and quickness to at least get to most balls so he was merely below average, but now that age is affecting him he has very poor range combined with being prone to misplaying balls and making bad throws; he is easily one of the 2-3 worst “everyday” defensive 2B in the league.
     
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    Acuna hasn’t exactly been an iron man himself.
     
  5. Snake Diggit

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    https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2025/07/padres-trade-rumors-catcher.html

    Buy-Buy shakeup trade:

    Astros get:
    2B Luis Arraez
    OF Gavin Sheets
    RP Jason Adam
    P Kash Mayfield
    $7M

    Padres get:
    C Yainer Diaz
    IF/OF Shay Whitcomb

    Astros get 2 LH bats plus a top pitching prospect. Padres get a controllable everyday C and a bat to help replace the guys they’re losing.
     
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  6. Justin Thomas

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    I was legitimately asking and assumed he graded out pretty bad…but is that worth it to have a non traditional offense position hitting 850+ OPS? I believe his decline so far this year is partly age related, but also being impacted by the move to LF for the first time in his life. We leave him at 2B and I bet his OPS starts steadily climbing back in the 800’s again
     
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  7. Wulaw Horn

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    Sure. But he's had trama injuries not made of glass injuries would be my thought.
     
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  8. Wulaw Horn

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    I love Yainer Diaz. Giving up 3.5 years of club control would be hard to see happen. But, I'm starting to wonder if his ceiling is less than I thought it was when I thought he could be a 5 or 6 war guy and do 140 type OPS plus seasons. He still hasn't turned 27, right? Caratini is better the less he plays imo, and that's putting a lot on Salazar as well as really hoping the kid from Sam becomes a good major league regular which doesn't seem like it's trending that way right now- even with him being better the last couple months.
    I'd really rather trade arms than bats.
    All that to say- yeah- that might make sense.
     
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  9. IdStrosfan

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    Actually his best OPS is when he is a DH.

    .811 as a DH
    .739 as a LF
    .648 as a 2B
     
  10. Wulaw Horn

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    Most guys have to pay a DH penalty. If there was a guy that wouldn't you'd think it would be a vet that is used to hitting in every situation, has 10k reps and could use the time off his feet.
     
  11. CisBuds4U

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    really ? So how’s that injury-free season going ? I don’t want to trade Yordan but you’d be a fool not to consider it given the pattern of injuries with him. You think his hand injuries are gonna go away ? Very doubtful
     
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  12. The Beard

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    Also for years we had the ability to cover for him with the shift

    No more
     
  13. Wulaw Horn

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    Underrated point.
     
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    - (wrong thread) - deleted
     
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  15. Snake Diggit

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    Excellent point
     
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  16. Snake Diggit

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    You do know that other teams also know that Yordan is injured, right?


    Trading a 28 year old MVP caliber hitter at the lowest point in his value would be the height of idiocy.
     
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  17. BlindHog

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    Altuve is going to be a great DH. I hope he stays on as long as he likes.
     
  18. BlindHog

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    It actually makes his trade value greater than his value as a player.
     
  19. CisBuds4U

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    didn’t say now. Talking about in general. When he’s back and hopefully swinging well you start entertaining offers. No one said sell low - this is the “hypothetical trade thread”
     
  20. Snake Diggit

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    This is the 2025 trade thread, so the assumption is that people talking trades in this therad are talking about doing it at the deadline unless otherwise stated. Yordan is likely going to be out until at least late August. If you shop him this coming offseason his value will still be extremely low relative to what it was 3 months ago. It’s fine to gauge interest on any player but actively trying to trade a player of Yordan’s caliber when his value is in a trough would be really really stupid.

    Also, your original reply was to my comment about trading Alvarez “right now”.
     
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