1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

[Big beautiful bill] MAGA add 5 trillion dollars in debt while kicking off 15 million off Healthcare

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by astros123, May 12, 2025.

  1. Reeko

    Reeko Member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2017
    Messages:
    52,510
    Likes Received:
    144,677
    this bill is so disastrous to the country, Idk how u can make the argument that republicans aren’t an enemy of this nation

    they’ll give 99% of the benefits to billionaires and corporations while actively trying to harm everyone else, but they’ll toss something like “no tax on tips” to the plebs and they’ll hold on to that little crumb for dear life as the social programs they depend on get slashed and their healthcare gets taken away

    and if any of the MAGAt mindless drones start to wake up, they’ll quickly push some culture war garbage in their face to readjust their programming and have them fall back in line so distracted by a random trans person they forget what they were initially concerned about…the game is so easy atp

    u can play this game when it comes to the economy, healthcare, bombing Iran, and so much more
     
    astros123 and ROCKSS like this.
  2. snowconeman22

    snowconeman22 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2008
    Messages:
    14,558
    Likes Received:
    16,488
    Somehow any negative effects of this legislation will be the Democrats fault
     
    Nook and astros123 like this.
  3. Rocket River

    Rocket River Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 1999
    Messages:
    65,241
    Likes Received:
    32,954
    Democrats have GOT TO capture the reigns of political branding, communication and message dissemination

    Rocket River
     
    astros123 likes this.
  4. Jugdish

    Jugdish Member

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2006
    Messages:
    9,077
    Likes Received:
    9,585
    But Musk owns that.
     
  5. dmoneybangbang

    Joined:
    May 5, 2012
    Messages:
    22,585
    Likes Received:
    14,317
    Well then how? What program?

    We know those Christian churches take money..... they usually can't be bothered to give it out.
     
  6. Sajan

    Sajan Member

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2009
    Messages:
    9,320
    Likes Received:
    7,110
  7. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2002
    Messages:
    15,594
    Likes Received:
    6,570
    LOL, that is actually what Democrats do best. Have you ever worked with a public relations firm or a branding agency? All the big PR firms and branding firms are staffed and run by liberals. That just goes to show how deeply unpopular and ineffective liberal policy positions are. You can't polish a turd.


    GOOD DAY
     
  8. Mr.Scarface

    Mr.Scarface Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2003
    Messages:
    13,063
    Likes Received:
    8,367
    Bullshit. Keep shoveling that Bullshit. NO ONE IS BUYING IT.
     
    astros123 likes this.
  9. raining threes

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    18,744
    Likes Received:
    13,551
    Serious question, when's the last time you've stepped foot in a church?

    From personal experience I know churches do help take care of people and no most of them dont just take the money as you say.
     
  10. raining threes

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    18,744
    Likes Received:
    13,551
    I notice you didn't reply to he substance of his post.

    Well the libs have been wrong on most everything else Trump's done. I suspect this will be another case.

    BTW, you dont think no tax on overtime/tips wont help the middle class worker?
     
  11. raining threes

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    18,744
    Likes Received:
    13,551
    LMAO, they just want middle class workers to keep more of their hard earned money.
     
  12. astros123

    astros123 Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2013
    Messages:
    13,870
    Likes Received:
    11,417
    These people think you're dumb. Theyre seriously still pitching trickle down economics as being good for the middle class. They don't care if theyre lying to you
     
    HP3 likes this.
  13. dobro1229

    dobro1229 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2010
    Messages:
    25,740
    Likes Received:
    22,508
    Republicans literally own the media. I’m sorry but it’s a cop out to keep on expecting the Democratic Party to come save the day if they just start communicating better.

    It’s up to the people if they want to be sheep ruled by corrupt fascists or if they want self determination and freedoms. So far this country looks like the people have apathy, stupidity, ignorance, hatred, and the glorification of greed.

    Will people change and rise up or will they keep sitting around blaming democrats for something they do not control and it’s not their fault that people are fcking stupid in this country and it’s their choice to be stupid.s
     
    HP3, TheFreak, ROCKSS and 3 others like this.
  14. Jugdish

    Jugdish Member

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2006
    Messages:
    9,077
    Likes Received:
    9,585
    The average server's income does not qualify as middle class.
     
    HP3, Sajan, Andre0087 and 2 others like this.
  15. astros123

    astros123 Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2013
    Messages:
    13,870
    Likes Received:
    11,417
    Look at this dumbass. The unions are sounding the alarms rhat this will destroy millions of jobs and these dumbasses are still claiming its somehow good for the middle class.

    Braindead individuals



    The no tax on tips is bullshit as it only applies to w2 employees and is a tax deduction.
     
    HP3, Sajan, Andre0087 and 1 other person like this.
  16. astros123

    astros123 Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2013
    Messages:
    13,870
    Likes Received:
    11,417
    It does not lower energy costs you dumbass. It will raise energy prices in every state as the new taxes on renewables will make electricity higher

    Why do you morons lie 24/7. Its so annoying how shameless you people are

     
    HP3, Sajan and FrontRunner like this.
  17. Ubiquitin

    Ubiquitin Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2001
    Messages:
    19,534
    Likes Received:
    14,551
    I am not looking forward to $1000 bills this winter.
     
    astros123 likes this.
  18. astros123

    astros123 Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2013
    Messages:
    13,870
    Likes Received:
    11,417


    Seventeen million people will lose their health insurance just so Jeff bezos can have another tax cut.
     
    HP3, ROCKSS, Andre0087 and 2 others like this.
  19. mtbrays

    mtbrays Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2007
    Messages:
    8,629
    Likes Received:
    8,049
    Churches also don't have the scale to help tens of millions of people who don't have insurance. There's a reason state-administered health insurance isn't controversial in any other advanced country: only the government has the scale (which churches don't) and the motivation (which private industry doesn't) to insure this many people.
     
    astros123 likes this.
  20. FrontRunner

    FrontRunner Member

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2019
    Messages:
    2,940
    Likes Received:
    4,209
    The Lincoln Project's messaging > Democrats
     
    ROCKSS and Ubiquitin like this.

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now