EXACTLY. If he can't do it with the Bucks or doesn't think his prospects in the East aren't better (with Boston and Indiana currently damaged) only Cleveland in the way.
if there was ever a time to make an all-in move, it would be now OKC is very beatable...the rest of the West isn't what it used to be back in the day How often would a 52 win team end up as the 2 seed? The west has a bunch of decent-good teams, but only one elite in OKC. the East is just a joke...a barren wasteland of mediocre garbage Celtics are finished. Cavs? Pacers with Hali off the Achilles? Sixers? Knicks? Orlando? I mean, c'mon u make it out the West and that's an auto-championship Rockets haven't been to a finals in 30 years and have only been to 2 WCF in that period as well, so I can see why the FO might be trying to make things happen
I would rather win with our guys. We suffered through those seasons to get them and we are on the brink.
Houston looks very attractive now that Durant is here. It is almost guaranteed that the Rockets make another big move.
Thing is look at okc, its not about star chasing, its about building a young group, and finding chemistry. If down the line when this team is actually ready 25 -28 when Durant about to go out, they will have ton of experience, Sengun and Amen will be Stars, then you use Durant money to sign a true star in Summer of 28? Heck Eason is the Oldest at 24 of the Core 6.
but we needed a third poll. Do you want KD if you do not give up Sengun, Bari, Amen, Reed, or any of your first round picks or swaps outside of the meh ten this year?
There’s been much talk about how the OKC vs Indiana Final proves the “Super Team” model is dead, and we’re in the age of building depth through the draft around a star acquired in trade (SGA, Halliburton), and maybe a top coach. This may, indeed, be the case, but I also see a counter-narrative…..that the small markets like Indiana & OKC have to employ this strategy because star players simply don’t see these as destination towns for their services, and to some extent, they just “lucked out”……that larger markets have other paths to a title. I’ll conclude by saying the art isn’t necessarily in “copying” current trends, but in being ahead of the curve in identifying the next one
And you can use the Suns and BKN picks for an influx of good, young, cheap talent. Those ‘27 picks are going to be sweet. I think we are in a really good spot right now. I don’t want to become the teams that we are acquiring stars from that are completely locked out of options for improving their roster.
Giannis is fools gold and would gut the team. A C that doesn't want to play C. Hard worker but all talent is athleticism. Once it goes bully ball doesn't work anymore. All of his plays already happen with Amen, Tari, and Sengun. This does NOT provide a skill that we need, its an overlap. We needed Durant and got addition by subtraction. This is the opposite.
This is because there's an implied trade value everyone has in their head for the player. I am one of the people who voted no, yes in those two polls because I thought we'd have to trade way more to get KD. I feel the same way about Giannis. I'm currently of the opinion that we would have to give up 1 of Amen/Sengun, then 2 useful "others", plus 2-4 picks to get Giannis. If that's the price I don't want him. But if Stone figures out some trade/cap gymnastics to get Giannis for a pupu platter of scrubs, then I'll be in. But I don't see it.
Hell No. - Cost of assets - Extremely short window due to age and quick deterioration due to nature of game - On top of Durant (who I'm glad we got), the acquisition of more older players accelerates FURTHER shortening said window This is not the way. It's madness. A blend is what we need ..one that lends itself to flexibility and maximizing assets... Having a decade where we are a contender. Not some shortsighted philosophy.
I wouldn't say it's exactly a trend in team building but rather that the gap between good bench players and starter level players has decreased over the years, especially with all the year-round training and personalized nutrition that is being utilized by even fringe NBA rotation players now. Add that to the fact that with stricter salary cap rules (you definitely have no flexibility once you become a second apron team), it actually makes little sense to go superstar chasing unless you willingly restrict yourself to a 2-3 yr max window. And even then, you're betting your lucky stars that your top-heavy team won't suffer some bad injury juju. It's a huge gamble that we have seen play out with very little success over the past few seasons, and not just this year - Nets (KD, Harden, Kyrie), Suns (KD, Booker, Beal), Bucks (Giannis, Lillard), Sixers (Embiid, PG, Maxey), Clippers (Kawhi, PG, Harden), Lakers (Lebron, AD). The Knicks made that all-in gamble this past season and got lucky with the injury bug all season long, but their lack of depth killed them in the playoffs. And now they have no flexibility to add to their team. Making desperate all-in moves isn't what smart franchises should be doing. And we're not some major glamour team or destination team like the Lakers where you know the NBA will bail you out for tragic-level mistakes. The only way we can win in this rigged league is to outsmart most every other team and get lucky along the way.
false equivalency. Before the KD trade most people who were against it were against acquiring him for the rumored price and players involved. After the trade seeing we gave up none of that practically people liked it.
KD came to Rockets to play with Sengun, If Giannis comes here, he would want to play young all star caliber center player next to him. They both said their excitement to play with Sengun many times. Stars want to play with stars. we have right now complete one super star, Sengun. Amen has a great ceiling, but he is not in Sengun tiers yet in NBA hierarchy. The idiots posting like bye bye , will not Miss you Sengun, without Sengun, why they want to come here? To play with Bari? Tari? Reed? Amen? No, mainly Sengun. What kind of pills or drugs do you take? This team is built on Sengun, everybody except Sengun goes, he stays.. Got it?
If we traded all our picks and depth and a star for giannis we would basically be the new nets when they got all the older star players from the celtics and had an already older deron williams. window incredibly short, and blew up in their face. We have a team that is good enough as is. Id rather see this team blossom and be good than a durant, giannis team try to be good. I dont like gutting an entire team losing all the core that was fun to build all this way only to trade them all away and have an old a$$ stars team
I mean, we had people talking about “Jalen Green would be too much to give up for KD” before the trade went down it was evident from the beginning that KD’s value was low in a trade, yet it was still 66% not in favor there is a large subset of people that don’t want to make any move of significance because keeping all the young guys is supposed to give u some mythical 10 year window
If Giannis is brought here this summer it takes Sengun (salary wise) to get it done. It's a risky proposition and one I could understand not taking but make no mistake, Giannis and Sengun will not both be on this roster this season.
