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How is home ownership is a pipe dream in Nordic countries if Norway, Iceland, and Finland all have much higher home ownership than the US citizens? Isn't Sweden's home ownership about the same as us, and only Denmark's lower?

 

Sad day when vikings can't build their own homes anymore and rely on migrants to do all the hard work. #socialism

 

Its a sad day when you rely misinformation to reinforce your already false beliefs.

 

Things are genuinely going much better in Scandinavia than America for the median citizen.

If you are wealthy or upper middle class in America you would be inclined to disagree as life can be phenomenal here for those groups, but you aren’t the median American either.

 

For any family having children parental leave is something Americans can only dream of. A proposed $5,000 baby bonus is nothing compared to what other countries provide in both parental leave and affordable or free healthcare.

We are the only 1 of 6 countries in the world with no government mandated paternity leave, besides the tiny islands of Papaya New Guinea, Micronesia, Naruru, Palau, and the Marshal Islands. But, even those tiny islands offer benefits for some.

In Papua New Guinea public sector employees are allowed to take 6 weeks off before and after delivery with no deductions to their salary. The Micronesian state of Kosrae passed a law mandating 12 weeks of paid leave to female employees in the public sector, regardless of contract type. In Nauru.only public sector employees who have worked for at least 6 months are entitled to 12 weeks of paid maternity leave. In Palau female employees who have a permanent status at work can take a maximum of 30 days of unpaid maternity leave. Marshall Islands technically has paid maternity leave, but it’s only for 20 days at the national minimum wage and is applicable only to the first 4 births.

The Nordic countries have parental leave Americans can only dream of.

Norway allows 49 weeks of shared parental leave at full pay, 15 of which are reserved for each parent. If they want a longer time with their baby, they can also opt to get a total of 59 weeks at 80% pay, with each parent getting no less than 19 weeks each.

Sweden offers 240 days or 34 weeks for each parent at 80% of their regular wages, for a total of 480 days or 68.5 weeks combined. Unlike many countries that don’t extend leave for multiple births, an additional 180 days or 26 weeks are granted for each additional child.

In Iceland, both parents are entitled to a combined total of 12 months of paid maternity and paternity leave. This leave is paid at 80% of the parent's average salary, up to a maximum amount. Each parent is entitled to a minimum of 5 months, with the remaining 2 months being transferable or shared between the parents. This leave can be taken within the first 18 months of the child's birth.

In Denmark both parents are entitled to a total of 52 weeks of parental leave per child, which can be divided between them. For the first 390 days, parents are typically paid around 80% of their salary, up to a certain limit. This leave can be taken before and after the birth of the child.

That, on top of the fact that Nordic countries also have public healthcare systems that cover prenatal care and childbirth, meaning that these services are free or heavily subsidized for residents.

https://joingenius.com/recruiting/maternity-leave-by-country/

 

The difference is that Scandinavian countries are made up of almost exclusively highly intelligent and productive people. That's not the composition of the USA. We have weak spots that require support. It takes a lot of money and resources to support the weak spots... which takes away the ability to do free education, health care, parental leave, etc.

 

Yea and those weak spots tend to vote against their better interest, are really bigoted, and very unintelligent. They wear red hats and love Trump.

 

Republicans tend to be self-sufficient people -- even the poor ones. They would be ashamed to receive government support, much less LIVE on it. They do not need to live near city centers for reliance on government services such as public transportation, jobs programs for the unemployable, housing programs, and more.

Smaller government is a central tenet of the conservative movement because Republicans do not need or want government help. Looking across the aisle, most rank-and-file Democrat voters seek out public help and fight to grow it. That's why DOGE was so repulsive to them... and cheered by Republicans.


GOOD DAY

 

Scandinavians make good furniture
and don't have fat chicks
@Salvy
@ROXRAN

 

No, your statement is based on the false premise that Scandinavian success stems from a homogeneous, "highly intelligent" population; instead, Sweden's higher tax-to-GDP ratio (41.4% in 2023 vs. around 27% for the US in recent years) enables a social democracy where universal programs like healthcare and education are investments in a diverse population, contributing to comparable or higher productivity per hour worked than the US despite Americans working significantly more hours, and resulting in lower income inequality (Sweden's Gini coefficient is around 0.28-0.30 vs. US around 0.39 for disposable income).

 

define upper middle class

 

that’s Capitalism

 

He reminds me of Jagmeet Singh , wasn't a fan of his ideas but supported him based on ethics and disliked his opponents more

 

LMAOOOOOO do you know how many REPUBLICANS ARE ON MEDICAID AND SNAP????

Im not going to engage with you but....I just wanted to let you know lol.

 

you forget that Donald Trump filed for bankruptcy more thant 6 times.

the US tax payers had to bail his failed businesses out more than 6 times

 

Depends on where you live within the country and how many people are dependent on you. Generally enough money to buy your family the equivalent of a social safety net.

Money to live in a good part of town (or better area within the country) to increase safety and live near better schools (or money for private), money to buy quality healthcare, money to pay for childcare, the kids college fund, savings in case kids have any psychiatric or physical problems later in life that require help (maybe this is better in other states but we really struggled getting any state or federal help for my wife’s sister experiencing psychosis), potentially money for your parents end of life care, on top of the usual retirement funds.

To me in my part of Texas, I’d roughly estimate that would be a combined annual income starting around 250k+ (with today’s housing costs and interest rates) for a family of 4.

It depends a LOT on if and how many kids you have, and how much your immediate family members have their **** together in life.

In Scandinavia these problems just aren’t handled on an individual family level. People pay higher taxes for it to be handled as a country wide community, so you don’t have to be well off or lucky to get through life with a decent standard of living.

I have a lot of kids, and I hope my kids are able to have kids if they chose so, and given that I think economically the Nordic model is really a great deal. If you want your future generations to do well, you need society in general to do well.

 

Define a lot of kids next...

 

you first lol

 

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