Yes, and Cam's salary won't net you a quality wing - so you have to combine salaries to get someone good. Not for Philly - you would need to add picks.....pie in the sky stuff...would love to have Grimes but I also believe Cam is going to be a very good player as he matures. DD
understandable. with katie in town, we don't have room for 2 alpha superstars. the tillmen don't have that kinda bread
Ideally I’d like to get a 2026 1st rounder for him, but I suspect that won’t be easy. I trust our front office. If we need to move on from Cam I’m sure they have good reason. I’m disappointed, but I don’t doubt that’s the right course of action if that’s what they end up doing. No more drama this coming season. We are going for it and we need everyone on the same page.
I think Jalen likely could have been dealt last deadline for positive value (he was in the middle of a hot streak), I highly suspect that Jalen was a negative asset in the Durant trade. Jalen looked awful in the playoffs, multiple reports of the Suns not wanting him.
Jalen was minutes away from being traded with Jabari Smith Jr. for Kevin Durant in February of 2025. Fair or not, no one was fully sold on the hot stretch, including this FO. They also apparently were ready to let go of JSJ so that shows you their internal evaluation on him too. They wanted Paolo and I don't think they'll ever fully get over that.
I’d rather not skip out on two drafts in a row. But I’m also fine trading Cam for a good player. I will be curious to see what his return is. I get that folks are disappointed, i am too, but let’s all acknowledge we don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes. The front office has earned my trust. I think they’ll make the right decision.
Look my point is NOT ABOUT CAM. It is about asset management - his salary is 3.5m this year, so if we traded him that is ALL WE CAN take back - so if you want a GOOD player to help win now, you have to add salary, and the other team has to want Cam or the players we are trading, or future picks. The Rockets would not trade Cam unless they are getting a quality WING back to replace him, or else we have a hole at that position in a year we are trying to go for it. I am saying, that the chances of us trading him go up in the regular season when all the Rox contracts are available to trade, around Dec 15th. On Monday the chances of trading Cam go way way down even further. But maybe you can add Landale, Holiday, Cam and 2 FRPs and pick up a 20m stud.....we shall see as in 2 days we lose Landale's 8m availability and he is not a needle mover. DD
Either pick in 2027 (Suns + Nets swap) is more valuable than having a random 2026 pick. That said, I agree with you it would be good to have a 2026 pick.
I stated in another thread that I actually did S&T Tate (3 years, $30M) + Landale for S&T Grimes (3 years, $60M) in FanSpo and it worked. But I ain't no capologist....
Cam Whitmore is not playing because he displays bad body language on the bench and regularly jacks up as many shots as he can in his limited minutes when he does play. If Whitmore wants to play for any competitive NBA team, he needs to not shoot the ball every time it touches his hands and give good effort on defense. Cam Whitmore is the reason Cam Whitmore’s value has tanked in league circles.
for what it’s worth 2026 is supposed to be an incredible draft and 2027 is supposed to resemble 2024.
no, you combine him, Jock and Aaron Holliday You are immediately at 16.4M You're getting into Collin Sexton or Malik Monk territory. Both of whom could drastically help add some points when needed. I don't think Dillon's production is the one you need to replace, it's Jalen's and apparently they don't trust Cam enough for that.
Always need more draft picks, especially after a season of no draft picks. Lots of youth on the team will get paid big in the next year or two, excluding Durant likely getting 55m the nest 3 seasons. Also, draft picks can be used to attain players that "help us win this year". Look what Pho just did w their 5 2nd rounders. Having cost-controlled rotation players will be the key to a Championship.
Depends on how much the Jazz internally value Cam Whitmore. They were said to be heavily considering him when they picked at nine that year and went with Hendricks instead. Maybe they still would like to see what he's got. Could just probably add a lottery protected first to that deal and make it work. There is no reason to horde draft picks now unless you think you're getting Giannis before the season starts. This is a championship season, you go all in. Sexton is on the market. He's a perfect fit and you'd keep your MLE to sign FAs.
I want to point out that he played good defense from early December through January. He got more assists than three rotation players from mid-December on while being decently scoring efficient (i.e., better than most Rockets) over that time. I did think his defensive effort waned when he was on the deep bench again starting in February after a small shooting slump. He is a frustrating player. He isn't there yet, and may never be there. Offensively, I think he's always going to be a shoot-first player. If he improves his shoot as well as Jalen Green has, he's nearly 38% from three in 2 seasons. I think he really needs to make threes at a high clip to succeed. Defensively, I think it is mostly consistent effort/staying locked in at this point keeping him from being an averagish defender.
