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2025 Hypothetical Astros Trades Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Snake Diggit, Apr 9, 2025.

  1. Astrofan59

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    I am certainly no talent evaluator, and Garcia may come with an extra couple years but those years are likely to be league average hitting and poor defense (he is -14 DRS so far this year). I could be absolutely undervaluing him, but this seems like a massive overpay. Ryan Gusto, a back-end starter with 6 years of control, alone should be enough to make this trade happen, unless you think last year was a breakout year and not a fluke that I think it was. Or taking Gusto out seems to make this a reasonable trade. Just my opinion
     
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  2. Snake Diggit

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    He was a 3 fwar player last year and he has been unlucky with the bat this year (xwOBA .372 vs wOBA .317). Your opinion is certainly valid, it could be a big overpay depending on how you value the various pieces. Dezenzo is hurt, Blubaugh has looked awful the last 6 weeks, Baez is having a lost season so far. If their stocks were all how they were in March, I don’t think Gusto would be needed.
     
  3. Buck Turgidson

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    This happens often. It's why it's usually the last "unclicked thread" I click on in this sub-forum.
     
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  4. Yordan The Great

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    LH Bat
    Ryan O'Hearn is absolutely the perfect bat to add. He plays 1B and OF, we get versatility plus one of the best bats vs RH pitchers in the entire league.

    He's a rental but he would only cost $2.7 million at the trade deadline.

    It would cost us little to get him. Baltimore is certainly selling at the deadline.

    High Leverage Reliever
    Aroldis Chapman has been there, done that. He's having an outstanding year. Boston will sell at the deadline. He's on a 1 year deal, again a fairly inexpensive trade.

    Can you imagine Abreu and Chapman as your choices to set up Hader. That can win you a championship.
     
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    That would make games 5 inning games.

    I wonder if Footer/Drellich would come after him for being a woman beater like they did Osuna?
     
  6. punkoholic

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    Bob Nightengale is reporting that the Astros are aggressively going after Cedric Mullens. So what would guys offer? Also, disappointed with the target. Sure he's a lefty bat but stats don't seem impressive. Is that why he's the target. Low cost, hope for the best rather than paying more for O Hearn?
     
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  7. Snake Diggit

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    2 prospects from the 7-20 range of Houston’s list would probably do it. I would try to offer something like AJ Blubaugh and Luis Baez, but the Orioles may be more particular and want something like Ethan Pecko and Joseph Sullivan. I definitely wouldn’t want to give up any of Melton, Matthews, Ullola, Brito, Forcucci, or Kevin Alvarez.

    Mullins wouldn’t move the needle much on offense but he is lefthanded so he would balance the lineup, which is Houston’s primary goal. Mullins would also be a plus defender in LF, giving Houston potentially the best defensive OF in the league and mitigating the effect of Altuve being so weak at 2B.
     
  8. sealclubber1016

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    For his career he is, significantly, better than any of our other options in LF vs. RHP (assuming we just shift Altuve back to being a primary 2B). It would also provide some Jake Meyers insurance in case he gets hurt, or regresses back to being a platoon starter.

    Our production in LF/2B aside from Altuve has been absolutely atrocious, it's kind of gotten lost in the shuffle with the struggles of Walker and Yainer. So if Mullins can provide a .750 OPS against RHP, it would be a massive step up for the position.
     
  9. RocketFan007

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    Mullins currently has a .656 OPS against RHP in 2025. .766 in 2024 and .725 in 2023.
     
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    Our batting staff will get him right.

    Nope he's not a pitcher.
     
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  11. sealclubber1016

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    And in 2022 it was .782. His last 4 full seasons he has been a plus bat against them, something none of our other options can say.

    His BABIP against RHP this season is currently .214, that won't continue.
     
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  12. Buck Turgidson

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    I've always liked Mullins...but I'm thinking the Stros can do better?
     
  13. Htown Stros

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    Yeah…this wouldn’t be an exciting trade to say the least
     
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  14. Buck Turgidson

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    He'd be an amazing 4th OF
     
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    ^^^^
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    Cedric had a good start then fell off Glacier Point and is still falling. I'd pass unless it's for peanuts, literally peanuts. Do it right and get a guy that has it going. We have had enough trade deadline bats that barely produce.
     
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    What a weird thing to be bothered by, generally - but especially seven years later. If not for the cheating scandal. Luhnow's acquisition of Osuna would rate as his biggest stain - it was gross then and now. He bought low on a player currently suspended for domestic abuse and assumed winning would make it all ok. Footer and Drelich were right to drag him for it. Why are you (still) upset - years later - at the people standing against the organization for cravenly acquiring a domestic abuser? Seriously, just an all-around weird take.

    As for Chapman, I hope they don't go after him for this very reason - but I believe his charge pre-dates Osuna's, and while I'm not going to defend him or his continued employment nor try and qualify domestic abuse, the circumstances are not terribly similar, and certainly not similar enough to drag out a petty, seven-year old grudge.
     
  18. raining threes

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    I dont care at this point, but why did they go after Luhnow for trading for Osuna, but didn't go after Cashman/Cubs GM etc... after trading for a domestic abuser like Chapman and yes Chapman was a domestic abuser. Drellich/Footer are a bunch of hypocrites. They're feelings were hurt because they didn't think Luhnow's plan would work and Luhnow kept receipts of who was bashing him during the rebuild. This was their way of running him out of MLB and they were successful.
     
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  19. Hey Now!

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    Bringing this up seven years later completely unprompted indicates you still very much care.

    ...because neither covered the Reds, Cubs or Yankees. This seems blindingly obvious. Reporters are not obligated to share their opinions on every news item in their sport; they are paid to report and comment on news items about the teams they cover. And the Astros trading for Osuna while he was suspended was a wholly unique aspect of the deal and it would've been insane for the Astros' reporters to not make comment on it. It was a big deal.

    No; they rightly called out an indefensibly gross choice Luhnow and the Astros made. That's it. Don't try to hide behind whataboutism or any other nonsense: what the Astros did was disgusting; Footer & Drelich were right to drag them for it.
     
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  20. raining threes

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    You're wrong on his one, I'm just trying to point out the hypocrisy.

    What other teams that were winning championships with wife beaters was just as disgusting. If you want to win championships you have to operate like championship teams do particularly when you're a mid market team and Luhnow was all about winning championships not about running the church social you wish he had done and for this I'm thankful as his philosophy has lead to a decade of the most successful baseball this city has seen since it's inception. A decade of winning and still more winning left to do.
     

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