Israel conducts preemptive airstrikes hitting Iranian targets

50% of the time Seymour Hersh is right half the time, so it will indeed be a terrifyingly interesting weekend.

 

This is also exactly what you would do if you were the US and wanted to protect international airspace and shipping lanes, while being prepared for some sort of escalation by somebody...so, we'll see

 

Is it just me or has anyone else noticed the play on words we are being fed on the nuke threat timelines? We’ve been told for many years that Iran is weeks or a few months away from developing a nuke. We’ve been told Khomeini shelved the program way back in the early 00s. So, now they are just saying the same thing over and over like it all changed. Yea…it all changed to fit Israel’s narrative. They are using a very clever play on words to fit their narrative to justify their actions. But, nothing actually changed in their posture. The real truth is this was the best time for Israel to attack because they’re on a war momentum high and path . I don’t feel that Trump and Bibbi are being completely honest. Yes, Iran has been weeks or a few months away from a bomb for at least two decades. Nobody is disputing that. But, they are using this play on words to make it seem like something changed just by repeating the same lines over and over and over. This is a force -fed narrative using a play on words. Just be honest. This is why Gabbard and Trump are on different pages. She was right and Trump checked her for Israel’s agenda.

 

What matters is deployment and effectiveness. Based on what I can tell if Iran wanted to make a thing go boom I’m sure it could. But I do not believe in the recent history and the near future they have the ability to get anything close to Israel to have an effective use of the bomb. Maybe they could find a way to bring it in by land on a truck and use a crude bomb, but that’s such a risky use of the precious bit of uranium, etc. they have for a bomb that could easily be found and dismantled before it goes off.

Point being… yes Netanyahu is on a war path that he feels is expanding his power, and is driving the narrative he and the GOP want in order to go to war with Iran to get regime change. Why does the GOP regulars want regime change in Iran I don’t know. I don’t think they could articulate it clearly now but I do know they want it.

My guess is growing up in an evangelical house, the right is obsessed with end time prophecy and evangelical leaders interpret the text to believe Iran is what the Bible is talking about with the enemy that’ll be attacking Israel in end times (which of course they are wrong about. John was talking about Nero which would mean Ancient Rome).

What right wingers are doing here is pretty simple. Wanting to go to war for religious purposes, and Bibi is using that desire and narrative to seize an opportunity to expand his power. Trump… well he’s just being Trump. He knows what his base wants but I think he doesn’t exactly understand the situation. I think he’s just flying by the seat of his pants and looks at every situation as how can I make a quick buck. Bibi is trying to play to his emotions by making up the lie that Iran has tried to assassinate him twice so that Trump will make it personal and give Bibi the war he and the evangelical right want.

I’ll be honest, if there’s one good thing about Trump it’s that he’s usually a dove on going to war unlike his party. He could fold any day and send the US to war tomorrow, but as of now his instincts to not bother with new wars is probably saving thousands of US troop lives. Any other GOP president and we’d have boots on the ground in Tehran yesterday.

 

Stop gaslighting. People are allowed to separate the entirety of the Jewish people with the corrupt autocrat currently trying to stay in power with the state of Israel in Benjamin Netanyahu.

Under your logic anytime anyone criticizes Biden or Obama they also were criticizing you too. Because under your logic’s it’s impossible to separate a political leader from the entire body population of a country.

I highly doubt that even a slim majority of Israeli citizens favor going to war with Iran much less all Jewish people globally including those who are not currently living in the Israeli state.

 

Conflict-ending airstrikes? Let's dig deeper than this.
Our conflict-ending airstrikes on Yemen most recently has not ended their civil war, nor ended the conflict.

The US was striking ISIL in Syria and Iraq, not the recognized governments. And that required boots on the ground, an unexpected coalition of Hezbollah, IRGC, Quds, Wagner, Syrian Armed Forces, and Syrian Defense Force.
But the Syrian Civil ended because Turkey sensed weakness and pushed the HTS to capture Damascus and Russia was pre-occupied in Ukraine and Iran refused to send a single Quds battalion to save the Syrian Armed Forces and Assad. Now ISIS runs Israel (yay?).
We struck ISIS camps in Somolia but we haven't had an operation against Somalia proper in decades.

And Afghanistan. We made a peace deal with the Taliban. The same Taliban we worked so hard to oust in the 2001 war on terror.

We have not participated in any expeditionary conquests elsewhere besides the Middle East/Central Asia in the last 25 years. The neocons, the oil lobby, the evangelicals, and the Zionists (or Joos as your Twitter quote calls them) had proposed Iran being the third domino to fall as soon as the dust from the World Trade Center settled. But we saw how the Iraq war went to **** and I guess now we are getting around to it.

 

If Iran wanted to become a nuclear power, they would have 20 years ago. Nuclear arms are a deterrent. And they did not expect a war against them because they had Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, and Yemen armed and supporting them.

But with Russia getting into its war of aggression against Ukraine, and Israel intelligence letting Hamas commit October 6th to justify the annihilation of Hamas/Gaza, we saw Israel the neutering of Hezbollah's leadership, bombing of Lebanon, and then eventual Fall of Assad because no one could "rescue" him. Trump decides to embark on a weeks long expensive campaign to neuter to the Houthis in Yemen but failed.

Now Iran suddenly is alone. And Israel has been given the green light to attack and now we are where we are today.

So is this war about WMDs? Regime change? Punishing China? Cementing American hegemony in the Middle East for another Decade? Whatever it is, I don't support it. But it's your faction in power, not mine, so I have no voice but to complain (just like in 03).

 

And I'll predict the US will not enter the war. TACO is a good thing.

 

And they’ll get the bomb, and we’ll just have to live with a more dangerous world.

History’s repeating. Gung-ho Republicans killed the deal with North Korea, and now they’ve got nukes - not to use them, but to make sure gung-ho Bush didn’t bomb them first.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/21/world/middleeast/iran-ayatollah-israel-war.html

Sheltering in a Bunker, Iran’s Supreme Leader Names Potential Successors
Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has not only picked replacements in his chain of military command in case they are killed in Israeli strikes, he has also named three senior clerics to replace him should he, too, be slain.

Ayatollah Khamenei, 86, is aware that either Israel or the United States could try to assassinate him, an end he would view as martyrdom, the officials said. Given the possibility, the ayatollah has made the unusual decision to instruct his nation’s Assembly of Experts, the clerical body responsible for appointing the supreme leader, to choose his successor swiftly from the three names he has provided.

It's not going to be his son.

 

Trump's brain is Jello. If we are moving billions of dollars of naval and air forces to the Middle East, sending offensive and defensive weapons to Israel, and publicly saying we are going to fight, we are going to fight. There is no casus belli required for us to destroy a sovereign nation.

 

Iran has been 2 weeks away from a Nuke for 2 Decades. Same BS they used for Iraq.

 

There’s a few things going on here people need to be clear eyed about-

-If this was any other evangelical right winger as president we’d already have 100k troops on the ground after carpet bombing Tehran.
-TACO Trump is what is keeping those troops currently out of harms way
-Trump has maneuvered our posture in a way where at any moment we could be struck or
could strike and be at war with Iran for the next decade.
-Trump wants to be a strongman dictator and wants to be seen as the most macho manly man in history.


So nobody really knows exactly what his mush brain is going to do tomorrow BUT right this second his TACO disposition is pretty much the only thing standing between our where we are now and entering a war in the Middle East that will cost trillions and be even harder to get out of than Iraq and Afghanistan. Costing more lives and putting Americans at risk. Not just with Iranians but many other Arab nations who today look on the sidelines but will not take kindly to another US led insurgency. This one overtly a religious war…. That last point being the most crucial aspect of the politics of this war.

So yeah don’t sing Trumps praises yet. It’s going to be very hard for him to keep being TACO Trump with what has been set in motion for sure.

 

Not good. Amazing how they show up in a photograph as many times as Trump has called them invisible. He's so damn stupid.

https://www.thetimes.com/world/midd...ran-news-us-deploys-stealth-bombers-kkc6202r5

 

the tell all sign this is all bullshit are the crazy hyperboles. This is all we need to knoe

 

He loves the news headlines, the attention. He’d spend billions in U.S. tax dollars to get them. He would do harm to the U.S. to get them.

Plus, the military wouldn’t be doing their job if they weren’t prepared. No one knows what he’s going to do, but TACO is the default and most likely outcome.

 

only 80% ,if you excludes Arab, its more than 90% which is quite low for a Sadistic society