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Dawn of the Dead Question

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Rocket G, Oct 30, 2004.

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  1. Ender120

    Ender120 Member

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    Well that certainly clears some things up.

    However, I still hold that in traditional zombie lore, they dislike water.

    And you're right. There's no reason to not rely on the "sail" part of your "sailboat" for as long as possible.

    I could survive a zombie outbreak. ;)
     
  2. Surfguy

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    Okay, given that it was Wisconsin, what islands are in the Great Lakes area that have some form of inhabitants or some facilities to where they would score some food or water? Northern Wisconsin has some very small little islands above it but I doubt their populated. Just where did these idiots think they were going and what did they expect to live on? :confused: :D
     
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    I agree that this movie could of been made better. I was very disappointed to find out how not-scary this movie was. I also agree that the trailer led the audience to believe that hell had some role in this film which it did not.
     
  4. Surfguy

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    You need to check out that older movie where the zombies actually lay in the water and rise from the water to attack. Damn if I can remember what zombie movie that was? It wasn't your standard fare zombie flick. That was creepy when the zombies rised up out of the water.
     
  5. Ender120

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    Well in all fairness, I remember an old zombie movie in which they're driving around jeeps.

    But traditionally there are certain things that they can and cannot do. Like go in water. Or drive jeeps.
     
  6. Surfguy

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    Your wrong! Check the survival guide, buddy. I know better than to assume zombies don't swim. I'm prepared. :D

    Per your statement about zombies driving jeeps, that is hardly a fair comparison to zombies rising from the water. What movie was your example in, anyway? Weekend at Bernies? LOL . My example added to the horror effect while yours the comedic effect. My example is also from an early film when the genre was just beginning. But, I'll admit it was a different kind of zombie film...just as "28 Days Later" is a different kind of zombie film. I haven't figured out the name of the film yet, though. While I agree that zombies don't normally swim, I don't think there is a precendence that says they cannot go in the water. I don't think the topic has been touched on that much other than zombies are not known to swim by default. If there is a precedence, then please point it out where it is not a derived assumption. I would figure if zombies don't swim or go in water they wouldn't have swarmed the boat dock at the end of DOTD because it's likely they would have fallen in the water at some point. Since they still had their motor abilities, then they could certainly swim if they had to. Sink or swim...albeit alive. However, they would have trouble with direction and steering. Therefore, the reason the zombies, for example, didn't try to swim out of Great Britain in "28 Days Later" to the mainland was because they have no sense of direction other than their attracted to living humans as a food source.

    I'm going to make a zombie movie where they swim and it will be really good. You wait. Where's my camera? I'm gonna go film myself rising from my bathtub as a zombie right now in a short film. You'll see. ;)

    :D

    Edit: I think I found the film. It was out in 1980 but it wasn't a very good film. I think the only good part was watching the zombies rise from the water. The rest of the zombie sequences and movie sucked apparently. Here is an excerpt I found on it below:

    Zombie Lake (1980)

    1.5 stars out of 5.0 stars
    Reviewed by Brian Matherly (contact this reviewer)

    Cast: Howard Vernon, Pierre-Marie Escourrou, Anouchka, Antonio Mayans, Nadine Pascal, Jean Rollin, Burt Altman, Gilda Arancio, Edmond Besnard, Jean Rene Bleu, Yvonne Dany, René Douglas, Julian Esteban, Alain Petit, Youri Radionow, Jean Roville, Claude Sendron, Marcia Sharif
    Written by: A.L. Mariaux
    Directed by: J.A. Lazer (a.k.a. Julian de Laserna and Jean Rollin)
    Running Time: 83 minutes
    MPAA Rating: Not Rated

    During World War II, the inhabitants of a small French town decided to deal with the Nazi menace on a more personal level and gun down an entire German troop right on the outskirts of their own town. Desperate to get the dead soldiers bodies out of sight before another troop can come through and notice them, the townsfolk, under the guidance of the mayor (Dr. Orlof himself, Howard Vernon), decided to throw the bodies into the local lake. Years later (though the exact time is never disclosed), the soldiers rise from their watery grave in search of vengeance on the town's inhabitants and the mayor finds himself having to rally everyone together to stop the zombie menace.

    With a screenplay credited to "A.L. Mariaux" (who is sometimes believed to be Jess Franco), Zombie Lake presents itself as one of the worst entries in the zombie genre. What begins with a promising plot about Nazi zombies surfacing from the bottom of a muddy lake turns quickly into pointless melodramatics and utterly ridiculous zombie sequences that make even the lowest budget production look great.
     
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    A movie with zombies driving a jeep would be Return of the living dead 2(or maybe it's revenge, not sure). Even though that movie was more of a comedy, I liked it when I was a kid.

    I'm with Surf on the water explanation. Swimming requires a little more thought and coordination than running after food. Maybe they could've doggie paddled to the boat though.

    Anyone see RE2? I thought the first one was alrite, though not stellar. The commercials looked ****ty, but so did the ads for the first one.
     
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    Time for a parody...3...2...1...

    Kerry: I have a plan...which sees that more zombies swim in the ocean than remain on land and try to eat you...the people of this great country. As part of this plan, it includes several phases and we will not be out-sourcing any of the work. I'm not at liberty to discuss the details of the plan but I know it will work. It will be honest and restore good will among the creatures of the Earth. It was a mistake to believe that we could work with some of the zombies to defeat the rest of the zombies. My plan will succeed because I've been in a war(Vietnam) and have three purple hearts(with two of those wounds self-inflicted with my own grenades). We need a change and to start fresh.

    Bush: Clearing zombies is hard...it's hard work! We got people working 24 x 7. Working on Saturdays...Sundays. The American people know it's not easy. We're doing everything we can but it's difficult. Rest assured...we will get there! We're gonna smoke 'em out! My resolve and strategery will see us persevere against these self-proclaimed weapons of mass destruction that are intent on destroying our way of life and trying to take our freedoms! We're gonna smoke em out and let em swim until they have been devoured by Great White sharks. We're gonna be moralized while we make them... ... ...de-moralized! God bless America!
     
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  9. Ender120

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    Eh, I can't think of any place in particular where I heard about zombies and water not mixing.

    Maybe it's just one of those things that varies from person to person. Some people think certain things about certain mythical creatures, based on nothing other than popular belief.

    I think I heard it rationalized once as water being the natural enemy to zombies, with water being the source of life and zombies being undead.

    And as far as them crowding the dock, it's not like zombies are all that smart to begin with. Even animals have some innate sense of avoiding danger, which zombies seem to lack.

    I always meant to pick up the survival guide, but never did. I think I will now.
     

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