Don’t see the Clippers giving up their starting center. That leaves Dunn, Powell, and Derrick Jones Jr. So the Suns end up with no young player with upside and no lottery picks to fall back on if their team is still trash.
I disagree. I think Jalen is more favored by other teams and their fanbases, than the Rockets fan base. What other teams see is a 23 year old guy that is inconsistent, but capable of MVP like performances. The also have eyes and see what a putrid offensive scheme he is playing in. Our fans are disappointed because he was a no. 2 pick and they are frustrated with his failure to substantially improve. I believe that Jalen will show a great deal of improvement if we re-balance the roster and get rid of our terrible PG. Trading him and picks for Durant is stupid. The only logical trade for Durant is with FVV and filler.
it’d certainly be the all nursing home team. No way all 3 would stay healthy. But this is all BS because unless the Clips are willing to give up multiple future 1sts, they don’t have any players the suns want, with Zubac off the table.
swear to basketball jesus if I said there’s a young player on another team with career averages of 20, 4, and 3 taking 17 shots a game on 42/34/80 splits and 54% TS coming off a 21 ppg season on 54% TS and 13 ppg on 37% shooting in the playoffs scheduled to start earning 35 mil/yr, 99% of this board would be clowning that player and calling the other fanbase delusional for making up excuses there were people still calling Cade Cunningham a bust early this season, and Cade is on another planet compared to Jalen a bunch of basketball hoarding going on here when it comes to Jalen…
I don't think it's Jalen being offered, i think it's brooks. I don't think any young player is being offered except maybe cam (because i think he wore out his stay with the coaching staff). I think that's why they are underwhelmed by the package lol #10 is an incredible asset up until the draft commences. I think that is our main chip being offered and that's it.
Am I the only person who hopes we have a plan B for Jalen if he’s not moved in a Durant deal? He has to know that he’s in these trade discussions. I get that this isn’t a Mark Williams situation, and Jalen’s a professional, but if he’s back next season I don’t think this is great for a guy who struggles with confidence. I still like the idea of working a deal with the Wiz to move up to #6 to grab Kon. just think it’s not ideal to have Jalen’s name all over the trade market if he ends up returning next season.
Dillon and who. We have to trade them 54m in salary. the obvious to get that done are FVV which you only need to add Landale to, or Jalen which you will have to add Brooks or Reed, Landale, and Cam. FVV is the obvious choice for the Rockets, but Phoenix wants Jalen.
Any player over 30 just needs to be off the table at this point. Period. Durant is the 6th oldest player in the league and it's not by much. Pass.
It can only get there financially after the draft, using the #10 picks salary. We agree in principle, draft for them and it completes a month later "officially". Dillon, jock, holiday, cam and #10's 6m salary makes the math work.
Wait... Are the Timberwolves r****ded? They'd trade Gobert and DDV for a 37 year old Durant? Who DOESN'T want to be there? To pair with a 23 year old Edwards? On a team with almost zero defense? That just went to the WCF?
Might have to be a 3-4 team trade to get to that 54M going back to Phoenix. I have to agree I don’t think Jalen is part of the package. Might be be: Dillon Cam Landale This year’s 10th or future 1st
Durant is practically begging to be a Spur. He’s made goo-goo eyes at us and Miami but San Antonio has his heart. Teams are smart to not be overpaying. But they got him if they really want him.
The Rockets have to know this, the best case scenario is not even KD coming to the Rockets, it is KD going to another team for scraps, preferably a rival where he also tanks and there are dominos that fall that end up helping the Rockets somehow. An example would be him going to Minnesota and things imploding and Ant asking out in year or two. This is not far fetched since they have done this w BKN and PHX already. The Rockets would be keeping all of the the Suns assets that would increase in value. They have $50M of dead cap space w Beal which they will never be able to get out of. If Beal's contract was actually movable they would be able to retool with assets from the KD trade and then sign some solid vets that fit their new coach and system better, this would make them good enough to be a play off team and tank the value of the picks, but they are completely stuck. There is no other team that is even close to being able to offer what the Rockets can. The Heat offered Jimmy, a young player (Jovic) a first, and salary filler, the Suns said no. This was during the season, hes worth much less now and ended the year injured. FVV + Cam + #10 will be the best they can get at this point. Suns were 3-17 without KD last season, they are an absolute train wreck, the value of the PHX picks increases each day. This is best case scenario for the picks we obtained last season, just have to be patient.
I agree. If the Rockets hold firm they win either way. A year ago who would've thought (from a reasonable-person's perspective) that this year's swap would even convey with a team that had KD and Booker on it? Yet it did. Us having the 10th pick this year is a bonus. The real assets are the PHX unprotected '27 pick and the '29 swap. They quite possibly could be a complete dumpster fire being saddled with Beal's contract for the next two years (coinciding with us owning their '27 unprotected 1st). Phoenix fans and local Phoenix media are pushing a narrative that teams will get desperate, blah, blah. I don't think Stone will. I hope he sticks to his guns and trusts what he's building with the perspective of a long runway versus a short-term outlook of trading a war-chest of young talent (15 years-ish younger than KD) and/or picks that could, possibly, help us add more top-end talent to a roster in a couple of years via shorting the future of PHX. Do I like KD? Of course. Do I like the idea of him taking up 30% of our cap space for the next 3 years, giving up enough salary ($54M) to get him which means parting with players that are both young and talented enough to have value elsewhere in a trade (if needed), and being screwed if he gets injured again -- based on a higher probability of a 37-year old versus, say, a 23-year old, etc... -- while we're still on the hook not only for his contract but having given away players on top of it? Nope. If we had, at some point, somehow signed him into available cap space with no players going outbound, then I'd have been good with that. The reward would've outweighed the risk from a probabilities perspective. But for Phoenix to want, say, Jalen, Jabari, filler (Jock), and this year's 10th plus their '27 pick back? Or even worse -- re-working the deal to include Reed and/or Cam? They're on crack. Phoenix made their choices (Beal, KD, etc...) and now they have to deal with the consequences. Last year their owner Ishbia said "There are 26 other teams that would trade their roster for ours...". Welp, how does it look now Ishbia?
