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Republicans raise the debt ceiling by 4 trillion while kicking millions off insurance

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by astros123, May 12, 2025.

  1. deb4rockets

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    You are so full of crap. No, it's not what I'm hoping for, but I know that under Trump it's bound to happen. It's for that reason and 100 others I didn't vote for the pathological lying grifter and felon. I would love to see my electric bill magically be cut in half this August like he promised, but know it won't.
     
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    We will see,

    I'll take what he's done so far when it relates to inflation/gas/groceries etc... But you're right, it would be terrific if he could accomplish everything he wants in 120 days. I'm a set the bar high kinda guy and if I fail to reach my goals I've still accomplished more than most then I've done well.
     
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    He has already broken a bunch of promises, which you conveniently refuse to acknowledge. He has made himself a billion a month with his cash donations and crypto for favors though. Dude's so damn corrupt it's head spinning. Pardoning the biggest Medicare fraudsters and swindlers around, if they are big donors or Trumpsters he lets them free, stuffing those due compensation. The circle of white collar criminals know just what to do when it comes to getting off with one of their own as President.
     
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    Are you saving money on the things that I listed? These are things that matter to middle class America.
     
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    @Rileydog they could've even survive a week without pausing them. His cultists dont understand how capitalism works. Without migrant labor this country collapses
     
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    put it this way, the winning / losing is a binary result, but the margin (and polling) shows how much political capital the winner has to work with. Elections decide what you can ram through as law but the popular vote still signals what you can get away with (esp vis a vis midterm election payback)
     
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    No. I'm not. Nothing has gotten cheaper, accept maybe very recently gas, which now is likely going back up, but I drive a Tesla...
     
  9. Rileydog

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    i don’t think @raining threes or @HTM care one bit that Trump lied to them about enforcing immigration laws. Also, isn’t it interesting that the “migrant crisis” that Fox News showed non stop and that they care so deeply about has suddenly vanished like a fart in the wind?

    Daddy Trump hasn’t deported those tens of millions of rapists, thieves and murderers.

    So what’s going on?

    - you guys got duped into being enraged about a crisis that isn’t?

    - the crisis is still there but Fox News isn’t feeding it to you, now that Trump is president and isn’t doing anything about those crises? (He is too busy raiding Home Depot’s, restaurants and farms, and they must still be eating cats and dogs in Ohio).
     
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    He's admitting that all these workers aren't the rapist drug dealing gang bangers, people let out of mental asylums, and violent criminals he portrayed them all to be. He just won't say it. He will never admit that he just spewed all that BS to rile up his white supremacists, far right hate groups, and MAGA folks who believe every lie he spews to them. He threw out a tiny percentage of bad apples to make them all think the whole bunch was rotten. I'm still waiting for his raids on construction workers to cease, since they make up a huge portion of immigrant labor.
     
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  11. Rileydog

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    truth. That said, even if these workers were all rapists and murderers, he would absolutely cave to special interests anyway and decline to deport them.

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    @raining threes @HTM - if you haven’t figured it out by now, let me spell it out for you in very brief terms. So it is not TLDR.

    1. EVERYBODY KNOWS WE NEED TO EXPLOIT ILLEGAL LABOR. INCLUDING TRUMP.

    2. EVERYBODY KNOWS THIS MEANS SOME BAD ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS COME THROUGH. INCLUDING TRUMP

    3. EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT THIS IS THE COST WE ACCEPT FOR EXPLOITING ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. INCLUDING TRUMP.

    Trump has simply duped you into thinking (1) they’re all rapists and murders, and (2) he’s gonna deport them all. Neither of those things are true.

    He is admitting it, right in front of your eyes, not six months into his presidency. Your “follow the law” nonsense is utter nonsense. Your president doesn’t even believe it, not one bit. You’ve been lied to.
     
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    I think that's the most important fact of all. Trump himself doesn't follow the law. He's bragged about how he can get away with anything for years, and he has no qualms associating himself with other white collar criminals. He used his pardons his first term to free his big Trump loyalists to help him spread his election lies, and help incite his insurrection. His gut was telling him he wouldn't win, and his narcissistic ego couldn't take it. He couldn't take losing all that power to grift off the government while he wined and dined at Mar a Lago and sold all his tacky overpriced Trump crap made mostly overseas.

    This term he's making sure he can reap in as much money as possible, and has selected the perfect loyalists in the DOJ and FBI to turn a blind eye to his blatant corruption and abuse of power. After all, Pam Bondi and Kush Patel have lied over and over for him in the past, defending his corruption. Now he has found even more ways to hide the money, and make deals for money back into his pockets with the family crypto business and pardons for sale. It's not about what you can do for this country, it's what can you do for him.
     
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    I'll spell this out for you

    I really dont care

    You need to look up the meaning of ILLEGAL. As smart as you seem you would think you would know what the definition of that word means.
     
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    Exactly what has Trump done that's illegal since he became POTUS this term?
     
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    Now that is real progress. You acknowledge those things are all true and you affirmatively state you don’t care. I have a TON more respect for that than TLDR, TDS, I’m not discussing that, and so on. Finally some intellectual honesty.
     
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    The honesty comes in whether you you believe in laws or not and you don't get to pick and choose which laws you wish to follow. The laws are what they are. This has nothing to do with Trump.
     
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    LOL, coming from a supporter of a felon for President who scoffs at the law, that's rich.
     
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    You can say you believe in laws. Words are easy.

    You support a President who does not. Your support belies your statement that you believe in laws.
     

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