All lives matter unless u are on the left or an illegal immigrant it seems for some folks on this board.
Easy way to do this. Put a bill out in congress. Amnesty all illegals with no criminal history, drug/alcohol problems. Revoke their right to citizenship for those that haven’t applied and came here illegally. Immediate citizenship for true applicants. Attach to the bill proof of citizenship to vote. Move it along… Hispanic culture should be valued in America as they line up with our values. Has to be give and take both ways. Conservatives fear of illegals fall on them being criminals and illegal voting. Fix that and I think it works out just fine.
Put in a bill in Congress All employers must pay a fine of 10000 dollars per illegal person they employ per day they are employed or Suffer 10 days in prison per illegal employed per day So if they employ 10 illegals for 10 days That would be 10000x10x10 = 1000000 dollars or 10x10x10 = 1000 days in prison (If its a corporation these every member of the board must pay or serve the time) I GUARANTEE all jobs hiring illegals will dry up in a month Rocket River
Great in retrospect, but you would get a housing crash in the south which would basically cripple our economy. Hard pass for me.
I thought we didn't want illegals working? Why round up the illegals but not the employers? You act like Americans could not do those jobs? Those companies would simply have to PAY a DECENT Wage? Wage theft is a problem Using illegals to circumvent it is a problem Rocket River
Good for him, this is why our country is so great. Even woke liberals play a part in hiring people like him and making him successful.
We now have MAGA twisting itself into pretzels on immigration: Biden let in all these illegal aliens!!! Booo that b*stard Trump says brown people are rapists and murderers! Deport them all!!! Wait, now Trump says we need to exploit the illegal labor for agriculture, restaurants, hotels, and construction (thanks @deb4rockets for noting this omission)!?!? What the hell? Now Trump says he isn’t gonna deport these people?!? I thought they were rapists and murderers?! This is so confusing!?! Aren’t we gonna follow the law!?! It’s the law!!! Hmmm, did MAGA get played (again)? Take a look at their actions and not their words … Trump and Biden are the same on immigration. They both want illegal labor here. Just like every prior president. The difference is Trump has moron followers who are too stupid to see what’s going on.
@Salvy @strosb4bros @raining threes @HTM - there is zero chance you guys and MAGA would agree to this, am I right? You cannot have more brown people becoming US citizens. Doesn’t matter they are good, hard working people. Doesn’t matter if we exploit them for labor and we need them for construction, agriculture, restaurants and hotels. If they get deported, well too bad, they shouldn’t have come here. Too damn bad. They’re here illegally, they’re lucky to have whatever work they get here, for however long they get to be here. No way in hell we let them become citizens and vote. @strosb4bros likes to talk about how more Hispanic people are voting republican, but there is no chance republicans go for this.
I'm for deporting illegals and so are most legal hispanics. That's why they voted for Trump in record numbers. Look up the meaning of the word Illegal.
Well, your president disagrees with you as it relates to construction, farming, hotels and restaurant workers who are here illegally. I’m sure you’ll be quick to denounce his capitulation to special interest groups and lawlessness.
Employers will have to raise wages and increase insurance costs hence raising the pricing of homes. I’m liberal on immigration so not sure what point you are trying to get here. Never been the KKK/Nazi lover half the sub has tried to put me on the hook for. Middle as they come. Right is just full of more open thinking at this point and it’s not entirely close.
This is just full of strawmen. I never said or implied any of this stuff. You simply make up stuff, apply it to me and then attack the stuff you've made up. Such a common, dishonest and disingenuous tactic from the leftists on this board. My position is simply that people should obey United States immigration law. That doesn't mean I am "diminishing" people or that I "don't think much of them" that I think I am "above" them or any of this nonsense you want to put on me because you have no real argument here. There's also nothing wrong with calling illegal immigrants illegal immigrants. "Illegal Alien" was a formal term used by the United States government until the Biden administration stopped using it a few years ago. It conveys an easily understood message, someone who has entered the country in contradiction of the law i.e. "illegally" with the desire to remain here long term or permanently [an immigrant] or someone who has overstayed their visa in contradiction of the law i.e. "illegally" Spare me the woke moralizing around these terms. You aren't better person because you call them "undocumented" instead of "illegal", a term I am sure I can find every prominent Democratic politician of the last generation using. It's just virtue signaling nonsense.
Are they illegal or not? Why is it ok for them to be here only when it benefits the wealthy? Why is it ok for the wealthy to employ illegals . . . . . . . but not ok for illegals to work? My point is not you being a KKK/Nazi but that you are being hypocritical You are willing to not hold employers accountable for employing illegals while simultaneously being ok with employers taking advantage of illegals to circumvent minimum wage lages and practicing wage theft Indentured servitude is bad . .. . unless we benefit from it? Rocket River
Ahh I see what you are trying to say. It’s their choice to work in these conditions and clearly they do it for a reason. US dollar does well in Mexico. Most are sending money back. If they didn’t want to do it, they wouldn’t be here. We are a capitalist country. In some facets I’m completely ok with it. This is one of them. It’s America above all.
Another reason republicans would never go for your proposal. Trump/fox news/maga/white nationalists have been screaming hysterically that democrats are trying to replace you (not you you, I mean their target audience), America is being ruined by people of color, and it would be so much better if we made America white again. No chance your proposal would ever gain traction.
The irony is that America has never been "White"....... It started out with the indigenous folks.... DD
