1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Choose your own adventure: Which star should the Rockets acquire, or none of them?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by OremLK, May 19, 2025.

?

Which move do you make?

  1. Acquire Giannis Antetokounmpo, give Milwaukee a massive trade return.

    22 vote(s)
    11.6%
  2. Acquire Jaylen Brown, give Boston a significant trade return.

    7 vote(s)
    3.7%
  3. Acquire Devin Booker, give Phoenix a significant trade return.

    27 vote(s)
    14.2%
  4. Acquire Ja Morant, give Memphis a significant trade return.

    5 vote(s)
    2.6%
  5. Acquire LaMelo Ball, give Charlotte a significant trade return.

    9 vote(s)
    4.7%
  6. Acquire Trae Young, give Atlanta a significant trade return.

    9 vote(s)
    4.7%
  7. Acquire Kevin Durant, give Phoenix a moderate trade return.

    39 vote(s)
    20.5%
  8. Acquire Zach LaVine, give Sacramento a minimal trade return.

    15 vote(s)
    7.9%
  9. Acquire nobody, or only make small moves. Run it back.

    57 vote(s)
    30.0%
  1. Dobbizzle

    Dobbizzle Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2021
    Messages:
    6,313
    Likes Received:
    9,516
    Not really, you just need to remove him and make some more grounded moves to get more consistent scoring at the 2 spot.
     
  2. OremLK

    OremLK Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2010
    Messages:
    20,070
    Likes Received:
    17,675
    I think we're just having differing opinions on how much KD will cost and/or how much it's worth giving up for a rental like that. I think giving up a good young player and multiple draft picks is seriously harming our future flexibility and our ability to build around our best young players. And I think the deal would realistically look something like FVV + Tari + multiple Phoenix picks. To me that's just not even remotely worth it. Those are assets we can instead cash in a couple of years from now, when our players are fully developed or close to it. At that time, KD will probably be retired.

    If I'm wrong and it's like Brooks + a bunch of salary filler and this year's Phoenix pick, then fine, that would be great. I'll do it, provided KD isn't wanting like a 3 year $180M guaranteed extension or something.
     
    slothy420 likes this.
  3. Corrosion

    Corrosion Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    10,020
    Likes Received:
    13,238
    I don't think any of the above mentioned stars is ideal for this team .....


    I probably wouldn't trade for any of them, rather, I'd try and pick up some help via free agency and the draft - particularly guard help as inconsistent play from both guard spots is what hurt them this past season and again in the playoffs.

    First, Ty Jerome in free agency. He's a combo guard type that can run the offense on occasion when FVV is out but most importantly, make Jalen Green obsolete.

    In the draft, I'm looking at the best shot maker / shot creator I can get - probably one of Jakucionis or Demin with Harper, Edgecombe, Fears & Johnson likely off the board.
    Maybe you use #10 and Jalen Green to try and move up a few spots .... I don't know how far that would get you.
    Would Atlanta give up 13 & 22 for 10? Allowing you to pick Demin and Coward?
     
    slothy420 likes this.
  4. mfastx

    mfastx Member

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2009
    Messages:
    10,282
    Likes Received:
    3,880
    Why do you say he has improved defense? His advanced metrics do not match the impact of his counting stats.
     
  5. Hemingway

    Hemingway Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2016
    Messages:
    10,596
    Likes Received:
    13,810
    I think you’re wrong on the cost and if you are right about the cost you simply don’t do it. I would want to kill 2 birds with one stone, FVV, Cam, filler plus #10 or just one of the other Phoenix picks and we keep #10 (probably for use in another trade). You would still have plenty of ammunition to go after multiple all-star or near all-star players that balance out our roster and are still young enough to contribute when KD’s time is up.
     
    luckyman76 likes this.
  6. RocketsFido

    RocketsFido Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2013
    Messages:
    10,412
    Likes Received:
    12,601
    I've already accepted this team isn't going to win titles any time soon so RUNNN IT BACCCK x3.
     
  7. OremLK

    OremLK Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2010
    Messages:
    20,070
    Likes Received:
    17,675
    Didn't vote when I initially made the thread, but I think I'm falling more and more onto the side of "run it back with minor upgrades".

    If we were to trade for Giannis, and the price made sense, I'd get behind that move, but I'm concerned the price will be far too high. He's still an incredible player, but you need to have a roster around him, you can't just put yourself in the same spot Milwaukee is in.

    Guys like Booker, Brown, KD, I just don't think are good enough to be the best player on a championship team. I don't know if they push us over the top, and again, I think the price will be too high to make sense. Again, at a bargain-bin price I would be happy if we acquired any of those three, but at their realistic market value, I don't think I'd pull the trigger.

    So unless we can do something that's a clear upgrade where we aren't effectively going all-in by trading too many assets away, I don't know if I see a great fit.

    The most likely best path for me would be to mostly keep the same core intact and try to make some less-drastic moves around them. I will say that I think we definitely need to upgrade our shooting. And the path of least resistance there is the in backcourt, which I don't think is as bad at shooting as it seems on the surface, but also definitely could stand to improve. There are some things that make this tricky though:

    1) Trying to upgrade from Jalen Green might make sense, but we've already talked about the issues with trading for a Booker or a Brown, who aren't that much better (if at all) as jump shooters anyway, though they are much better in some other areas. Trading for a guy like Coby White, Quentin Grimes, etc and trying to have him replace Jalen would be quite the gamble because I don't know if the front office is going to see them as a clear upgrade so much as a lateral move with a chance at being better. It's hard to see them doing that. We might be stuck with Jalen for a little bit longer for these reasons.

    2) Upgrading from FVV is something a lot of people are banging the table for, but despite the surface numbers looking bad, dig a little deeper and he still looks like one of our best 3P shooters. He was also probably the best performer we had in the playoffs overall. And he's a great "coach on the floor" who steadies the team on both ends. It just doesn't sound like the front office is ready to move on from him, either. We're probably going to have to accept him getting some sort of extension or having his option picked up for next season.

    3) If you don't move those guys, any upgrade to the backcourt has to come from the bench. And then the front office has to confront the question of--"how much do we believe in Reed Sheppard"? I don't envy them that. Between Aaron Holiday and Reed Sheppard combined there were about 18 minutes per game last season. If you could add a sharpshooter like Luke Kennard to replace those minutes, maybe that could make sense, but then you're effectively giving up on Reed.

    4) The other possibility is to try to add a stretch 5, but the difficulty there is that those guys, especially ones who play any defense, are still pretty rare. Maybe you could go get a Vucevic to replace Steven Adams, and that might make some level of sense, but you're downgrading our rebounding, defense, and PnR screens in the process.

    I think it's going to be hard for the front office to work through these decisions and figure out where they want to try to upgrade. These are really challenging questions because they may require consolidating less-critical members of the young core into a trade just to free up minutes (let alone to get a trade done).
     
    Corrosion likes this.
  8. shakes05

    shakes05 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2007
    Messages:
    708
    Likes Received:
    492
    I think the biggest question for the Rockets:
    Are you ready to move on from Jalen Green?
    Is Jalen Green potential/ceiling worth the patience?
     
    Corrosion likes this.
  9. Whenitsover

    Whenitsover Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2018
    Messages:
    276
    Likes Received:
    334
    The sample size is over 300 games now, how much more do you need to see he's not that guy?
     
    slothy420 and shakes05 like this.
  10. shakes05

    shakes05 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2007
    Messages:
    708
    Likes Received:
    492
    I agree he's not the guy!
    However, one can argue it's like his "sophomore year" - meaning the Silas years he learned bad habits...its like a reset when Udoka took over and Jalen had to learn how to play basketball the right way...maybe the Rockets would like to see how he responds/adjust after an underwhelming playoffs. It was his 1st playoffs.- Just looking through the lens of the front office.
    As a fan, I just don't think he's that guy! I could be wrong, but the inconsistency is a trait that Jalen must break...
     
  11. Hemingway

    Hemingway Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2016
    Messages:
    10,596
    Likes Received:
    13,810
    He is not the guy, but that doesn’t mean he couldn’t become a very good sg on a championship squad. I think because his improvements on defense, he deserves another year and hopefully with a better backcourt mate. He is not hugely overpaid based on his production and potential. I wouldn’t give up on a 22 year old guy that has so much upside unless the return was substantial.
     
  12. OkayAyeReloaded

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2010
    Messages:
    4,873
    Likes Received:
    7,329

Share This Page