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Republicans raise the debt ceiling by 4 trillion while kicking millions off insurance

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by astros123, May 12, 2025.

  1. raining threes

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    LOL, The people have spoken, it's gonna be a long 3 1/2 yrs for the libs like yourself.
     
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    Being proud of supporting Trump is quite a thing. I hope the intellectual and moral bankruptcy is worth it.

    As for me, I’m a lot more like Adam Kinzinger and never trumpers than what most normal people would consider a liberal, but Trumpers consider anyone who is anti Trump to be radical leftists. I’m doing just fine and always will be. I have the means to leave this country and live elsewhere if I chose. We just have to accept that the US has peaked and is in serious decline due to the ignorance spread by Trumpers, the disregard for democratic institutions, and their general eagerness to tear down the country to make it white again.

    Congratulations. Trump won and you can claim partial credit. The people who have to live here will suffer for it for decades.
     
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    Human scum = MAGA. The sad part is the next generation of kids who were raised by MAGA parents are just as shitty.

    Morally bankrupt @deb4rockets
     
  4. raining threes

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    I like Trump's agenda, I dont even really like the man. I do believe they tried everything possible to put him in jail. Even things like Bragg making up crap.

    This is about following the constitution and securing the borders, not about racism. The thing I'm most hopeful about that maybe the agenda will continue after Trump because a record number of Hispanics and African- Americans voted for Trump. They were the difference in the election and there numbers are growing because of the kind of stuff that's currently happening in LA.

    The country does need to be torn down and rebuilt but not be made white again. This just in, in your lifetime the govt hasn't been just white.
     
  5. HP3

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    You can trust him all you want, that doesnt mean he's correct, you just trust him cause he probably he feeds into your biased views already
     
  6. HP3

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    LMAO and he can be wrong too, dude is a Trump stooge like they all are.

    Except Israel right? And almost nothing you said can be done, those jobs arent coming back.
     
  7. HP3

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    He;s destroying the government as we know it and is acting like a dictator.

    That's the problem with people like you, you think deporting people will make things better and they wont. Immigration is the only talking point you have and its a made up boogey man that affects very little people. People will vote with their wallets, and Trump is not doing good for them there, you all are getting blown out at mid terms.

    LOL THATS EXACTLY WHATS HAPPENING. You are supporting racist policies, KKK, Nazis, white Supremacists ALL LIKE TRUMP.
     
  8. Rileydog

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    You “not really liking the man” is a rather pathetic, lukewarm statement about a person who is a dispicable piece of human trash by any objective standard. Unless of course you like people who pay for sex with p*rn stars while their wife is pregnant, walk in on naked beauty pageant contestants, regularly trashes people of color, parties with Jeffrey Epstein, has trouble denouncing racist people and organizations, is widely supported by racist and white nationalist people and organizations … I could go on for days, and all of this is fact.

    If you support Trumps agenda, you cannot claim to give one single crap about the constitution. He has no respect for separation of powers, the judiciary, the first amendment, and on and on. It is a joke. His agenda includes efforts to allow him to ignore rulings from the judiciary. Or have you not been paying attention. I don’t know how you have convinced yourself that Trumps agenda is in any way supportive of the constitution, but it is quite possibly how people hve convinced themselves that J6 was a bunch of patriots visiting the Capitol. People believe what they want to believe, or believe what is convenient to justify their views.

    Closing the southern border has been done.

    Deportation is a spectacle to drive fear into brown people and to make rural white people happy because brown people are being debased and demeaned.

    Trump himself has said he is only going to selectively enforce immigration laws - he knows we need to exploit the cheap labor of illlegal immigrants in hospitality and agriculture and won’t touch those folks. Actions speak louder than words - he knows, as does anyone with half a brain, that illegal immigration is a net economic benefit to this country. We choose to exploit illegal labor on the one hand, and then demonize all brown people who provide this labor by calling all illegal immigrants criminals, rapists, thugs and the like. In reality, illegal immigrants are more hard working than many US citizens and perform the work that we are too lazy to do. Look no further than the numerous articles quoting farmers for that very point.

    I have no idea what point you are making with the statement that in my lifetime the government hasn’t just been white. Yes, that is true. Whoop dee doo.
     
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  9. strosb4bros

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    What is keeping you here since white people are so bad? Why not back to China?

    The fact is you know this is the only place where you can ruthlessly exploit the system built by white people.

    Where law and human rights take precedence over the narratives you weave to feel self righteous.
     
  10. Rileydog

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    An easy question with obvious answers. People tend to live where their friends and family reside. I travel as much as I can to enjoy other parts of the world.

    Back to China? I’m not from China originally. But you’re close. (Is this the old “go back to where you came from, you damn foreigner” thing? Not terribly original).

    No, this isn’t the only place where I can exploit - ruthlessly or ruthfully - the system. I can invest and grow my personal wealth anywhere at this stage in life.

    So many words and as usual, so few intelligent things said. You continue to be bothered by me and others telling you that you are stupid. You complain about it constantly. But you keep posting stupid things. It is within your control.

    Post less stupid things and I promise you I’ll stop calling you stupid.
     
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    Baseless conjecture to make up for lack of reasoning ability. Exactly what's driving blacks and browns to the right.

    Deportation is needed due to Biden's open border policy that compromised the nation's resources.

    Obama deported 3 million people and this tired excuse of racism wasn't used once.

    Once you get closer to the Obama years level you can increase asylum and the vetted immigration process. But an unvetted one leads to a country crumbling, a country who provides comforts and benefits you are too scared to leave.

    If liberals had the courage to admit this, people would be less apathetic about non criminals being deported.
     
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    The point is -- why not move there? You have so much resentment and hatred for the system white people built, but you actively want to leech off of it and reap it's benefits.

    Asian countries only achieved prosperity after adopting Western values and principles built by a combination of liberals and conservatives. China explotied the WTO in a way white countries could not due to morali obligations in order to explode it's economy -- yet you're not on the picket lines there.

    You can only scapegoat the hand that feeds you so much. At some time you have to self reflect and understand it's your own mentality that's causing you to be so bitter.
     
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    I’m not so sure about that. I think that the burden of illegal immigration should be shared more equitably across all states, but I don’t know that deportation is needed.

    Many experts believe that illegal immigrants are a net positive economically because this country exploits cheap illegal labor. We would have nobody to wash dishes, mow our lawns, or pick our veggies and fruit if we deported all illegal immigrants.

    They commit crimes at lower rates than the rest of the country. In my experience, they are hard working people who are willing to do crap jobs for crap wages because it is worse in their home country. I admire their work ethic and toughness. Many Hispanic people are family oriented culturally, much like my own culture.

    If given a choice to deport all illegals or let them stay, I let them stay. It benefits us all way more than it hurts us.
     
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    You are a simpleton who is incapable of linear thought.

    I have already explained this. Like most people, I live where my family and friends reside. That’s why I have not moved. Is that difficult for you to understand? It’s not even a difficult concept.

    Edit: Again, as I posted above already, I’m not from China. If I were to move, why would I move there? Why do you assume I would move there if I left the US? Is this some weird, latent anti Chinese immigrant thing rearing its ugly head?

    Hatred or resentment for a “system white people built” - hard to decipher what that means. My criticism is of MAGA - the people and their stupidity, bias and ignorance.

    But, if by system you mean democracy, the right to vote, the constitution, laws … I have no hate for the system. It’s a good one. The best one around. My problem is MAGA trying to wreck the system.

    I cannot even fathom why you think I should be picketing or protesting in China. I don’t live there, I’m not from there, you are just confused and have no point as usual.

    I am not bitter one tiny bit. I am grateful and happy that I have been successful in my education, career and family life, and it is hard to be bitter when those things are good. But I am annoyed that you have a hard time with simple thoughts and Ideas, and there are too many simpletons like you that have trouble with linear thoughts.
     
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    This is just sad. RIP to that poor girl. The only way 6th graders would know about ICE and think to do this to a Hispanic child is because they were taught at home. These kids are being raised by devils

    when these MAGA people wake up in the fiery pits of hell, I wonder if they’ll view everything they did as being worth it
     
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    MAGA will tell you that we need to deport all undocumented people to make us safer but violent crime rate was lower in 2024 than when Trump was in office? Weird how crime dramatically fell even after we admitted those people ?

    Instead their orange messiah is pardoning actual criminals



     
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    @strosb4bros claims that Trump only pardoned J6 criminals because his hand was forced.
     
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    The majority of Americans thought like this leading up to covid.

    But 4 years of Biden caused havoc to the system. It gutted marginalized communities and flooded neighborhoods that were financially weak. When the bottom 90% are struggling like they are and you start diverting resources and hotels to anyone and everyone, it's going to piss people who aren't insulated from this off.

    It's not only about crime despite the right's selling point. You've got billions in untaxed payments going back to home countries, employers profiting off slave labor with no accountability for human rights (Something that doesn't work in the West), and a wild wild west system that rigthfully makes legal immigrants and Americans uncomfortable.

    This isn't an issue to complicate. Undo a fraction of the harm Biden did, then increase the vetted immigration process once the rage from Biden years dies down. Whether that's the end of this term or the beginning of next one, we go based on economic data. It's also an easier selling point to Americans when you can say look, _______ vetted immigration results in this much economic prosperity . But without data points and just wild projections, you have nothing to stand on.

    Don't make it about race and "empathy", because minorities see through that
     
  19. deb4rockets

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    It amazes me that they still believe Trump, a pathological lying sociopath is fit for duty. Cheering on a man pushing the boundaries of the law to the point of committing illegal acts, all while pretending to stand for the Constitution, yet scoffing at the Constitution in the same breath. He does this all while embedding himself so deep in corruption, bribery, and deceit it's head spinning.

    They cheer on Mr. Dictator/Authoritarian wannabe and raise their flags of Patriotism to Trump, and the USA, but America was founded against the exact types of leaders he wants to be, and against the types of regimes he idolizes. So, he's spending 50 million flexing his military force parade, along with a bunch of tanks and planes, to up one on Kim Jung Un and Putin on his birthday. Meanwhile, there will be hundreds of thousands protesting against that wannabe King and Tyrant all around this country. They are the true patriots who stand for Democracy, and their Anti-Trump protests are not Anti-American. They are Americans protesting against moving towards a government with some crazy sociopath wannabe King, surrounded in gold.
     
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    Unhinged post of the day.

    I like what Trump's doing.
     

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