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[Official] White Sox @ Astros

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Jun 10, 2025 at 10:03 AM.

  1. Stephen66

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    Have a bad feeling about tonight.
     
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  2. tehG l i d e

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    You should. Gusto is terrible.
     
  3. Snake Diggit

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    Don’t understand the mass hate for Gusto all of a sudden. He’s a perfectly average pitcher. If he’s your 6th SP you’ve got great depth and any team is fine with him making 10-15 starts in a year as an injury fill in or spot starter to manage workloads. So he’s right in the role he should be in. He’s also a rookie who’s been used inconsistently. I won’t argue he’s some badass, but he’s a perfectly average dude. Sure, everyone will be on his ass when he gives up 4 runs in 5 innings, but the problem is the Astros will lose 4-2.

    Jose Urquidy’s career xfip: 4.59
    Ryan Gusto xfip: 4.62
     
  4. Rock Block

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    I'm actually less concerned about pitching. If terrible is Gusto going 5 2/3 and giving up three, I'll take it all day and all night HOWEVER the real problem is 3-0 after five is a ****ing mountain for these bats. I would've already moved Walker down, for me 5 is too high....
     
  5. Rock Block

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    Exactly.
     
  6. Tomstro

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    So do I. Hope I’m wrong. We have to beat this shitt team
     
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  7. SamCassell

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    Urquidy consistently outperformed his FIP. He won more than 60% of his games and ended with an ERA under 4. WHIP always very good thanks to a low walk rate. And, you know, the 3 WS wins. Comfortably a #3 type pitcher.

    I don't think Gusto is in that company, yet. Whole statcast page is blue.
     
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  8. Stephen66

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    Gusto is going to get 3 -5 runs against him and we'll be lucky to muster 2
     
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    Right but also we have come to expect dominant pitching from the Astros over the last decade. This team has been to 7 straight ALCS series and we have always had shutout pitchers in the rotation. I think the expectations are a big reason why we trash Gusto and even Lance when he came back.

    Also the offense is so inconsistent we almost need shut out pitching to be competitive in a lot of these games. It also hurts when he don't gain ground on the Mariners who are obviously sinking like the titanic.
     
  10. Tomstro

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    True about the expectation level. However, that’s the mark of a good team and that expectation over time becomes valid. Not always fair but it comes with winning.
     
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    Agreed. Just throw strikes Gusto. The White Sox have an abysmal offense.
     
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    Great 1st Ryan!

    It's just not fair, Davis Mills has plenty of neck to go around and our boy Gusto could use some!
     
  13. Htown Stros

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    Would be really cool if we could actually score some runs in the first…
     
  14. Htown Stros

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    Damn didn’t know all I had to do was ask
     
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    Wow Walker

    Deeeep in The Daik

     
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    Walker with a big 2 out hr!
     
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  17. mvpcrossxover

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    at least walker is somewhat decent at home i guess
     
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    Wow. Wasn’t expecting this!
     
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    Now that’s what I’m talking about!
     

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