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Rockets going for Kevin Durant

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Snow Villiers, Jun 25, 2024.

  1. CRJ713

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    The Suns are using the spurs as leverage to try to get Bari from us.
     
  2. saleem

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    It won't work. They are desperate.

    The Rockets need an upgrade, but they aren't desperate.
     
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    I agree. I think the Suns are releasing all kinds of crap to drive up the price. The Spurs really have to give up some talent to match the salaries. If the Rockets don’t get him, I expect Miami or the Knicks to make a run at him, if they strike out on Giannis. I think most of the rumors we hear at this point is BS spread by GMs. They do it all the time. We are still the best positioned team to get him.
     
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    Absolutely, we are the best option for KD and for the Suns. The Suns need to take FVV, Jock Landale, Cam Whitmore and #10
     
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    Please Lord, make it happen.
     
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    I dont think so. Pretty sure the deal to San Antonio is already done. Rockets are going to re up with FVV at $30M+ AAV, draft CMB at 10 and we will take a step back
     
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    So Pop can dine with KD at weekends and converse about Team US.

     
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    Lmao why does anyone need FVV......especially when it is the Fred and Booker show......I guess the rest of the NBA is scared to death.

     
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    I think carl_herrera answered this extremely well already, but you greatly overstate how much Fred and Dillon are holding dudes back. Most of our minutes are played by young guys.

    I do, in fact, think Ime will develop our young guys and I think he has done a pretty good job of doing so to date.

    And are you trying to pin Alpy’s inability to make layups and free throws on Ime? That’s not fair.
     
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    This take is foolish and anyone on Team RunItBack needs to accept one glaring reality. WE ALREADY DID. The record for the 2024-2025 Rockets is IDENTICAL to the record of the post 2024 All-Star game Rockets. ALL of the playoff level teams will be better next year through acquisition or recovering from heavy injuries. What did we learn and why were the records the same? Ime was brought here to win, not tank. He played the roster he had. The Rockets win through effort and overebounding and are practically the worst shooting team in the NBA (3s, FTs, midrange). Ime is not stupid and structured the rotations to maximize our D at the expense of our offense. We play playoff basketball during the regular season with a heavy dose of dumb play. This team NEEDS shooting to stretch the floor and open up the offense to minimize the forced TOs that don't get included in the stats (FVVs half court 3s, slow pace, shot clock draining).

    Getting rid of a slow, small, washed FVV and getting Durant FORCES Ime and Stone to open up the offense. A bad PG is better than no PG but that is horribly inadequate in the modern NBA. You don't double down on stupid. We need a POA floor general. This is a team that needs to break down defenses, live in the paint, and make drives and FTs. Spacing.

    The Suns are holding out for more of their picks back but we have them bent over. I like Stone trading for picks but I DON'T like his talent evaluation of current players or trades. He has sucked at this going back to the Harden trade. I don't want Giannis and I don't want to overspend on the next star that MIGHT become available. Get Durant and then target a real PG. This is why you trade for discounted stars so you don't blow up your future.
     
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    LoL
     
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    Figured this would be the case for Durant and Giannis.

    Which is why I was Hoping Giannis would want out. I think that wouldve made it more likely for us to get KD.

    But it makes sense for him to want to go to San Antonio.
     
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    Because the suns are in luxury tax bell. And FVv is a 42 million dollar expiring contract. It's their only way out of jail.
     
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    They lose their attractiveness for a while unless their team overachieves.

    Regardless.
     
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    Those are only on paper better. I honestly think good players+good system win out everytime vs a randomly throwing big names players on a team.

    The Rockets had a really well oiled defensive system that made every team play at our grinding pace no matter who they had on their team.

    The way we consistently won games in the regular season was no fluke, it was a defensive system working to perfection almost every game.

    I do think we need to really tune our offense, but if you overtune you will lose your defensive identity that has proven to win a lot of games.

    We are kinda left in a weird spot with FVV because he anchors our defense while providing some direction on offense. We looked really lost without him. But he is getting old and his efficiency has been horrendous

    I think the one spot that desperately needs an upgrade is the SG spot. If you are going to play this style of defense, you need someone who can consistently get you buckets.
     
  16. Hemingway

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    I wouldn’t mind the Rockets taking a step back to further develop Amen, Jabari, etc. But taking a step back to overpay FVV is incredibly infuriating.
     
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    Well they just didn’t get better on paper. GSW had the best record in the league after acquiring Butler. Doncic and the Lakers got to the 3rd seed largely because of the Doncic deal. They will also find a way to upgrade their roster. They are a center away from being pretty scary. Lebron, Doncic, Reeves is a really good start. SA hasn’t proved it yet, so yes they are a paper tiger, but a full year of Wemby and Fox and having the no. 2 pick or using it to get another star could turn paper into stone pretty quickly. We just disagree on FVV/Green. It takes a while for a team to adjust to a new style of play. In the end, we were 8-9 in games FVV didn’t play and part of those games we were also without Jabari and Sengun. Give it a year with Amen starting in the backcourt and I think people will realize that we were just wasting time with FVV. Jalen needs to get better as well, but it would be nice to see him operate in a wide-open offense. If he still is horribly inconsistent then get rid of him as well.
     
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    FVV or Brooks, Landale, Cam and # 10. Including Green, Bari, or Tari is ludicrous for an oft injured, 37 yo, on an expiring deal. If Ime and Stone love FVV so damn much than ship out Brooks instead.

    FVV/Reed
    Green
    Amen/Tari
    Durant/Bari
    Sengun/Adams

    That’s a small roster change that could pay huge dividends if KD stays healthy. You keep your young core guys, and still have financial flexibility with FVV and Durant on short deals.

    From there I’d start kicking the tires on G upgrades like Garland. You still have Green and valuable future FRPs to use.
     
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    I like this option. Cam and #10 is enough value wise with the salary dumps. You just have to worry about another team overpaying for KD.
     
  20. Hemingway

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    I’ll agree on Alpi. Not Ime’s fault.
     

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