Republicans raise the debt ceiling by 4 trillion while kicking millions off insurance

A Corn Taco?

 

Already happening, not a hypothetical. People are impersonating ice. You're a probably a white guy so it doesnt affect you I guess huh, not your problem???
https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/04/us/i...ts-made-as-authorities-issue-national-warning

Im sure they got plenty of illegals, they also got people who were legal and people who didnt deserve to be deported. They have already gotten people following their court proceedings. These people are weasels and cowards.

When they hide their identities, you cant hold them accountable. So they are free to do what they want without repercussions.

 

Biden shouldn't have tet 10-20 million illegals in. Sure there will be mistakes and some of the hypotheticals you're pointing out. This is the price to be paid for cleaning up the mess Biden made.

BTW, the things you're describing dont happen often. Ice has warrants to make the arrests they make.

 

You’re deflecting with “Biden let in 10–20 million illegals” — a number that’s wildly inflated and not based on any credible data. Meanwhile, you’re brushing off documented cases of ICE impersonators harassing and detaining people — some of whom are legal residents or citizens — like it's no big deal. That’s dangerous.

“Sure, there will be mistakes”? That’s not how law enforcement should work. We don’t just accept civil rights violations as the “price to be paid.” If people are hiding their identities and acting outside legal channels, that’s not law enforcement — that’s vigilantism.

And no, ICE doesn’t always have warrants — administrative arrests often don’t require one, which is exactly why abuses happen.

If you’re fine with that, just say so. But don’t pretend this is about “cleaning up a mess” when what you’re defending is a mess of its own — one that puts real people in danger.

 

The number that's been reported is 10 mil but the real number is more like 20 mil. They have warrants, it's required to make an arrest. What is an administrative arrest? Never heard of that one. Yeah I've got no problem doing what's necessary to enforce the laws and cleanup the mess. Obviously laws aren't to be followed in your world? Or only the laws you agree with?

 

He admittedly lied. Per his own words, he (and the public health community) told people that masks were not effective at preventing/reducing COVID infections because he didn't want there to be a shortage of PPE for health care workers.
Here is far right nut job Kyle Kulinski exposing the lie:

 

OMG, really?

Did you watch the video? His opinion didn't change as the science changed, he specifically said they didn't want people buying up masks and N-95s because they didn't want their to be shortages for health care workers. As such, they purposefully lied to prevent those shortages. Don't let your partisanship blind you.

I have always called out both sides and will continue to do so. My problems with Trump are by and large different than yours, so you don't notice. For example, I have posted my opposition to his budget plan. I don't "pretend" to be against anything. I have made my positions quite clear for years and they are more consistent than perhaps anyone else that posts here. On the other hand, there are an awful lot of people that talked about January 6th as worse than 9/11 or Pearl Harbor that don't seem to have any problem with the "protesters" in LA attacking law enforcement. It is almost like a lot of people here have a double standard, and riots are only bad when they go against your narrative. As a rational person, I found the riots on January 6th bad (and said so, and said the rioters should be punished the same as any other rioters), and I find the LA riots bad (and have said so, and they should be punished the same as any other rioters). The same with the BLM rioters for that matter. I have been consistently anti-riot and anti-rioter.

 

Exactly. That’s like me saying because RFK lied and got people killed in Somoa, people in Florida deserved to not get critical FEMA aid after a hurricane.

And if I said that, it would not be me just stating circumstance like the score of the finals game tonight. I would be giving my opinion and judgment of the situation. I get really sick and tired of people thinking they can have zero consequences for having crackpot beliefs, expressing them, and acting upon them by voting for people like Trump and RFK, and expecting the rest of us to not hold those actions accountable when they get people hurt.

And yes Trump and RFK voters are responsible for people getting hurt by this insanity. They knew what they were doing when they punched that ticket. They also know their theories and crackpot beliefs are terrible too or they wouldn’t constantly be trying to act like they don’t actually believe this stuff when they told you 30 seconds before that they did.

 

If you actually look at what he said at the initial outbreak, he said those who are sick and healthcare workers needed them and everybody wearing them could lead to shortages for those who need them. It's like people didn't actually listen. Oh yeah, they didn't.

 

But there is no consequences to buying into conspiracy theories??

At some point, you have to decide if you actually want to see reality or if you are too far committed into believing these wild things. Now, you are going to tell me I am the one who is buying into the MSM etc etc. I get that. But I have gone through the process of questioning if I am wrong, looked at the evidence - that actual evidence - from all angles and see the real truth. I encourage you to do so as well. Not because I care about your politics, but do it for your own sake.

 

Do you have a reputable source?

 

It's all over the news.

Just Google it

 

The FBI and Chris Wray, hardly a conservative said after an investigation a lab leak in China was the likely cause of Covid. You think this is a conspiracy? Fauci through a 3rd party funded the research. I can't remember the name of the guy that ran the 3rd company.

 

The 10–20 million claim isn’t a “real number,” it’s a recycled talking point. DHS estimates the unauthorized immigrant population at around 11 million, and it’s been stable for years.

And yes, administrative arrests are real. ICE often uses civil warrants, signed by ICE agents, not judges. That’s exactly why abuses happen. Saying “never heard of that” doesn’t make it untrue, it just shows you haven’t looked into how ICE actually operates.

Wanting enforcement to follow due process isn’t “ignoring laws” , it’s demanding they be applied accountably, not blindly. That’s how real law and order works.

 

Did you even watch the video??? He had to do that BECAUSE front line health care workers were facing life or death and they couldn't have a shortage. Not only that, at the time there wasnt strong data or research on wether or not the masks were effective. It was a supply issue and a research/data issue.

Yes, I can admit that his messaging was poor, he should have been more transparent, but he didnt do so maliciously, he did it to protect front line workers, not to control people.

 

You make it seem like Fauci funded the very research that created COVID - which is a massive stretch and yes, a conspiracy.

The truth is that while a lab leak is possible, even in that case, a leak is not the same as creating it in the lab. It merely means that a field sample would have leaked. The epidemiological evidence still strongly points to natural origins and the evidence for a lab leak is circumstantial, hardly confident.

Gain of function research was not the source of this virus. It's a wild type virus.

 

If you believe this then we're never going to agree and I'm moving on.