[The Hill] Could Stephen A. Smith save the Democratic Party?

HP3 · Feb 7, 2025

Os Trigonum said: ↑

Democrats are so friggin' stupid, it's like @DaDakota with the Trump voters are racist thread. For the love of god, please find a new line of attack, or it's gonna be Republicans all the way down for the next 10 or 15 years
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Okay bro, what would be your messaging? Explain to me how to get through to someone like Salvy?

Os Trigonum · Feb 7, 2025

HP3 said: ↑

Okay bro, what would be your messaging? Explain to me how to get through to someone like Salvy?
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well it certainly ain't what Dems are doing right now

Ottomaton · Feb 7, 2025

Os Trigonum said: ↑

I am, and that's what makes so mad at friggin' stupid Democrats. I've been one since the 1970s and it's starting to get old
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Lets see what was on the agenda for Dems in the 70's... I guess we can both agree you are a big suporter of the Equal Rights Ammendment then? What were the Democratic Party positions that you support from the 1970's?

Os Trigonum · Feb 7, 2025

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Lets see what was on the agenda for Dems in the 70's... I guess we can both agree you are a big suporter of the Equal Rights Ammendment then? What were the Democratic Party positions that you support from the 1970's?
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no way man.

I'm not looking for a pen pal. You want to have a conversation with me? you gotta earn it

DonnyMost · Feb 7, 2025

Os Trigonum said: ↑

well it certainly ain't what Dems are doing right now
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Elephant in the room alert.

The truth is most of these people are unreachable and have no interest in truth.

It's not the salvys and tomstros and crixus you need to go after.

Ottomaton · Feb 7, 2025

Os Trigonum said: ↑

no way man.

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I'm not looking for a pen pal. You want to have a conversation with me? you gotta earn it
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No surprise you refuse to answer. Cary on with your shtick.

Os Trigonum · Feb 7, 2025

Ottomaton said: ↑

No surprise you refuse to answer. Cary o. With your shtick.
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what? you're some rando out of the blue who drops into the D&D and then drops back out . . . why should I waste ANY time interacting with you in any kind of serious way?

Ottomaton · Feb 7, 2025

Os Trigonum said: ↑

what? you're some rando out of the blue who drops into the D&D and then drops back out . . . why should I waste ANY time interacting with you in any kind of serious way?
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I was posting on here long before you showed up, champ. Anything I WILLINGLY CHOOSE to post about my personal life is free game for any of you deplorables to ask me about.

If I don't want to talk about something, I don't post about it, and I certainly don't "big league" people because I said something and refuse to back it up.

Os Trigonum · Feb 7, 2025

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I was posting on here long before you showed up, champ.
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congratulations

tinman · Feb 13, 2025

Os Trigonum said: ↑

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/5119585-could-stephen-a-smith-save-the-democratic-party/

Could Stephen A. Smith save the Democratic Party?
BY DOUGLAS MACKINNON, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR -
02/01/25 12:00 PM ET

I have long been a fan of ESPN personality Stephen A. Smith. I believe he has the best sports mind in the business. But more than that, I believe he has an exceptional mind — period.

He loves talking about a host of issues, politics being one of them. He’s also made a living out of talking smack from time to time, when he believes someone has messed up or not lived up to expectations. Politics is obviously a target-rich environment.

While I’m not sure of his political leanings, I have always believed him to be a Democrat when he has waded into at least the shallow end of the political pool. And nothing at all wrong with that.

Recently, while on “Real Time With Bill Maher,” StephenA — as he is often called — ripped into the campaign of former Vice President Kamala Harris. Said Smith: “Kamala Harris, who didn’t resonate during the primaries in 2020, couldn’t even get to Iowa, suddenly is the Democratic nominee, then you roll up to the convention in Chicago and everybody is like ‘She’s a rockstar!’ So it’s like ‘How’d that happen?”

Smith then added, “Yes I voted for her, a lot of people voted for her, but in the end, we end up feeling like damnfools, because we supported it, we fell for the okiedoke as they say. If you had a primary, the likelihood is she would not have been the Democratic nominee.”

To be sure, myself and a great many people I know — including some very influential Democrats — share that same belief. That said, those influential Democrats have only shared that belief with me in private. StephenA is more than happy to say it to millions of people. Repeatedly.

More than that, he is willing to state that President Donald Trump was more in-tune with the American voter — including the Black community — than Harris or the Democrats. Quite relevantly, he says that as one who came out of “real America.” Meaning a middle- to lower-middle-class upbringing in the Bronx, where he was the youngest of six children supported by a father who managed a hardware store.

I would have been happy to trade childhoods with him. As a white child, I grew up in abject poverty which saw me homeless and living in a car often. By the time I was 17 years old, we had been evicted from 34 homes. One of the only silver linings of those evictions being that we occasionally ended up in majority-Black housing projects.

As that child in those projects, I also got to witness the very personification of heroism in single Black moms who often worked two or more jobs and sacrificed their own happiness to provide for their children, strong and courageous women who became my earliest and most enduring role models. Heroes who taught me that “Black America” was a great America.

But, that part of America — most especially those struggling to survive in our inner cities — has been all but abandoned by the entrenched elites from both political parties. An America all but voiceless, looking for an authentic champion. Could Stephen A. Smith be that champion?

Why not? And if so, why not the champion of the disenfranchised from every community in America. And if the disenfranchised, why not the working-class as well?

Trump has broken a great many molds over his lifetime, the most critical and lasting being the political mold. He shattered it. He has become the ultimate “un-politician.” He did so because of his business experience and success coupled with that all but unattainable “It Factor.”

One could argue that Smith has that “It Factor” as well, which allows him quite a bit of leeway to speak his mind or call out failure.

Going back to the Democratic Party and the loss by Harris, Smith said to Fox News Channel’s Sean Hannity, “I think that in light of those results we have to look at this election as a referendum on the Democratic Party. And America’s saying we’re not feeling where you are, we’re not feeling where you tried to go, we want no part of it, we’re not having it…”

Smith has continually called out the Democrats for focusing on name-calling, fringe issues and DEI rather than the ones the voters most cared about — such as immigration, the economy, education, crime and health care. While on Chris Cuomo’s program on NewsNation this week, StephenA once again called the Democratic Party “tone deaf” and “leaderless.” Many believe him to be correct on both counts — including Democrats.

If I were part of the Democratic Party brain trust in search of a winning presidential candidate, I might be seeking an “un-politician” with a backstory that connects with “real America”; has a massive platform; is independently wealthy and can tell the entrenched elites to stuff their “special interests”; has that all-elusive “It Factor”; and is not afraid to trash talk or call out failure. Trump won two elections checking those boxes.

If I were part of the Democratic brain trust, I would be reaching out to Stephen A. Smith.

Douglas MacKinnon is a former White House and Pentagon official.

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@Salvy
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lord have mercy

CrixusTheUndefeatedGaul · Feb 18, 2025

Here’s an idea: how about dismantling that evil, wretched party once and for all. Put a stake in its heart and twist it a few times. America and Western civilization will be so much better without these heathens existing!

dobro1229 · Feb 18, 2025

I’m down for anyone who wants to run and go through the primary process. It should be a wide net this time and we can’t be closed minded to ideas… even bad ones like Stephen A. He’s sure as hell not going to get anointed and treated special though.

I actually think it’s not a bad idea for folks to go ahead and announce now though just to get media attention to get opposition messaging out through Trump noise. Who cares about decorum and norms. Trump started running again before he even left office. America needs to know there is opposition and people haven’t given up on the democratic process.

tinman · Feb 18, 2025

Os Trigonum said: ↑

what? you're some rando out of the blue who drops into the D&D and then drops back out . . . why should I waste ANY time interacting with you in any kind of serious way?
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@Ottomaton can’t just put his feet up breh

tinman · Feb 18, 2025

Os Trigonum said: ↑

well it certainly ain't what Dems are doing right now
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I would nominate
Max Kellerman breh

tinman · Jun 11, 2025 at 12:10 AM

Os Trigonum said: ↑

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/5119585-could-stephen-a-smith-save-the-democratic-party/

Could Stephen A. Smith save the Democratic Party?
BY DOUGLAS MACKINNON, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR -
02/01/25 12:00 PM ET

I have long been a fan of ESPN personality Stephen A. Smith. I believe he has the best sports mind in the business. But more than that, I believe he has an exceptional mind — period.

He loves talking about a host of issues, politics being one of them. He’s also made a living out of talking smack from time to time, when he believes someone has messed up or not lived up to expectations. Politics is obviously a target-rich environment.

While I’m not sure of his political leanings, I have always believed him to be a Democrat when he has waded into at least the shallow end of the political pool. And nothing at all wrong with that.

Recently, while on “Real Time With Bill Maher,” StephenA — as he is often called — ripped into the campaign of former Vice President Kamala Harris. Said Smith: “Kamala Harris, who didn’t resonate during the primaries in 2020, couldn’t even get to Iowa, suddenly is the Democratic nominee, then you roll up to the convention in Chicago and everybody is like ‘She’s a rockstar!’ So it’s like ‘How’d that happen?”

Smith then added, “Yes I voted for her, a lot of people voted for her, but in the end, we end up feeling like damnfools, because we supported it, we fell for the okiedoke as they say. If you had a primary, the likelihood is she would not have been the Democratic nominee.”

To be sure, myself and a great many people I know — including some very influential Democrats — share that same belief. That said, those influential Democrats have only shared that belief with me in private. StephenA is more than happy to say it to millions of people. Repeatedly.

More than that, he is willing to state that President Donald Trump was more in-tune with the American voter — including the Black community — than Harris or the Democrats. Quite relevantly, he says that as one who came out of “real America.” Meaning a middle- to lower-middle-class upbringing in the Bronx, where he was the youngest of six children supported by a father who managed a hardware store.

I would have been happy to trade childhoods with him. As a white child, I grew up in abject poverty which saw me homeless and living in a car often. By the time I was 17 years old, we had been evicted from 34 homes. One of the only silver linings of those evictions being that we occasionally ended up in majority-Black housing projects.

As that child in those projects, I also got to witness the very personification of heroism in single Black moms who often worked two or more jobs and sacrificed their own happiness to provide for their children, strong and courageous women who became my earliest and most enduring role models. Heroes who taught me that “Black America” was a great America.

But, that part of America — most especially those struggling to survive in our inner cities — has been all but abandoned by the entrenched elites from both political parties. An America all but voiceless, looking for an authentic champion. Could Stephen A. Smith be that champion?

Why not? And if so, why not the champion of the disenfranchised from every community in America. And if the disenfranchised, why not the working-class as well?

Trump has broken a great many molds over his lifetime, the most critical and lasting being the political mold. He shattered it. He has become the ultimate “un-politician.” He did so because of his business experience and success coupled with that all but unattainable “It Factor.”

One could argue that Smith has that “It Factor” as well, which allows him quite a bit of leeway to speak his mind or call out failure.

Going back to the Democratic Party and the loss by Harris, Smith said to Fox News Channel’s Sean Hannity, “I think that in light of those results we have to look at this election as a referendum on the Democratic Party. And America’s saying we’re not feeling where you are, we’re not feeling where you tried to go, we want no part of it, we’re not having it…”

Smith has continually called out the Democrats for focusing on name-calling, fringe issues and DEI rather than the ones the voters most cared about — such as immigration, the economy, education, crime and health care. While on Chris Cuomo’s program on NewsNation this week, StephenA once again called the Democratic Party “tone deaf” and “leaderless.” Many believe him to be correct on both counts — including Democrats.

If I were part of the Democratic Party brain trust in search of a winning presidential candidate, I might be seeking an “un-politician” with a backstory that connects with “real America”; has a massive platform; is independently wealthy and can tell the entrenched elites to stuff their “special interests”; has that all-elusive “It Factor”; and is not afraid to trash talk or call out failure. Trump won two elections checking those boxes.

If I were part of the Democratic brain trust, I would be reaching out to Stephen A. Smith.

Douglas MacKinnon is a former White House and Pentagon official.

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Reeko · Jun 11, 2025 at 10:55 AM

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I am, and that's what makes so mad at friggin' stupid Democrats. I've been one since the 1970s and it's starting to get old
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love u OS, but this post wouldn’t cause a spike on the lie detector test? U voted for Kamala?

Os Trigonum · Jun 11, 2025 at 10:57 AM

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love u OS, but this post wouldn’t cause a spike on the lie detector test? U voted for Kamala?
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no, I did not vote for Kamala. I did cast a vote for Biden in the primary though

Reeko · Jun 11, 2025 at 11:04 AM

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no, I did not vote for Kamala. I did cast a vote for Biden in the primary though
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Are there any current Democratic candidates that u like or support?

Os Trigonum · Jun 11, 2025 at 11:04 AM

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Are there any current Democratic candidates that u like or support?
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not really . . . last candidate I really liked was Bill Bradley

Tomstro · Jun 11, 2025 at 11:14 AM

Stephen A Smith?

that super racist tool from ESPN?

lol. Dems are really lost

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