We need to trade Sengun while his value is at its highest

We need to take
Sengun, Smith and Amen and plug in two well rounded offensive players next to them. Dillon doesn’t work because offensively he is rather limited. Jalen may work but would be overpaid as a 4 option in the lineup and is inconsistent.

 

Sure buddy.
Whatever you need to tell yourself.
Your track record speaks for itself

 

Jabari doesn't really guard the perimeter that well. I wish Tari could shoot better from 3. We also don't know what kind of contract both will get next season.

Brooks really did his job last season. Not sure what more you could ask more of him at that price.

 

Like I said in the other post. I'm not delusional in thinking Brooks wasn't valuable for our team. He's always guarding the toughest matchup and he brought an attitude and culture the team definitely needed. My statement was that we weren't winning with Brooks this year or next, he won't be apart of our future when we are actually competing for rings. I'd rather see Tari and Jabari get more minutes and develop even if it means more losses because it's better in the long run. I don't want Brooks gone I just don't think he should be playing anywhere close to 40 minutes a game and I also think he's defense took a huge step back after the camebsck from injury. Honestly he was a better offensive player for us than defensive.

 

I think of Sengun like Sabonis a good but never great player - a complimentary piece.

I wouldn't want to trade him, but if the right deal comes along I would.

DD

 

Lol you are such a clown but at least you’re funny

 

You could say the things you say without calling names.

 

Nonsense. Rule #1 of being a JOF is you are required to be an ahole at all times.

 

That is a given.

 

It’s going to be interesting to see what stone does.

I go back and forth when it comes to Sengun. His lack of a shot really bothers me, especially when you’re already undersized and not the most athletic.
That being said he was the reason we were a second seed last season. No body contributed to it more than Sengun. Anyone suggesting otherwise are lying to themselves.

I guess my decision would be holding on to Sengun and just really work on his jumpshot. I -hate- the two center lineup in which both can’t shoot. Not being able to spread the floor and allow people like Green/thompson to drive really hurts them.

 

The easiest thing to learn to do is shooting. Dort is shooting 40% from 3. Kenny Smith couldn't shoot 3s either until he came to Houston. Anthony Edwards wasn't a good 3pt shooter until he was. Its just reps and letting it go. Remember Kyle Lowry couldn't shoot with range either in his 1st 3yrs. How long did it take Lopez before he became a stretch. Alpi can become a 35% shooter from 3 in a summer.

 

I don't know you, what you think, where you're from, or anything

But when you say *that* I know exactly who you are, little man

 

ARTICLE

https://sports.yahoo.com/nba/articl...eam-might-need-a-chet-holmgren-175026946.html

Other good teams are wondering and planning for how to be able to have both 4-out and 5-out options while maintaining a good defense.

Here some of you monkeys argue about why people don't play up to their potential despite a crowded paint in a 3-out offense. Not to mention neither of our non-shooters is a 30ppg type player.

With Jalen Green taking only 12 shots per game, drawing double teams every time he touched it and barely holding the ball, Amen could only find 12 shots per game in the playoffs against mediocre defenders that were cheating off him often.

Sengun scored a dismal 21 points on 19 shots. He was single coverage the huge majority of the series against Draymond - who got torched on single coverage by Julius Randle in the next round of the playoffs.

Jalen Green of course was disgusting in 5 out of 7 games. They simply doubled and blitzed aggressively when he'd touch the ball (except in game 2). The coach instructed him to pass off so the rest of the team could play 4 on 3 basketball (rather than Jalen forcing a play). He became a non-factor most of the time offensively, and the rest of the team were not able to take advantage of those 4 on 3 situations. They would still just get a midrange shot basically. The reason? Because our 4 on 3 plays still had 2 non-shooters so they could still pack the paint and stay home on shooters.

It was a MASSIVE regular season mistake for the team to force/allow Sengun to shelve the 3PT shot he worked on so hard last summer. They sent half a dozen trainers to Turkey last summer to work with him. He worked on it the summer before that too. He shot 37.5% from 3 on low volume in the playoffs. We should have mandated a minimum of 2 3pters a game from him all regular season to get rid of that hesitation he has in his 3PT shot and build some confidence in it. Even if he doesn't make them at an ideal rate (like Draymond for example), you are still at least leaving the paint open for Amen and Green to get to the rim far more easily.

Next season, Sengun has to shoot. We're building a pointless treadmill team if we don't allow him to push through this wall. Sengun has to see that for his own selfish reasons too, developing a 3PT shot is the most profitable thing he can realistically achieve for his career. He's been commendable but not going to become an elite rim protector. He's not going to become a vertical spacing threat. It will allow him to be a weapon when he doesn't have the ball - he doesn't have any tools to generate an advantage for his teammates without the ball. When you CAN shoot and you don't have the ball, you're literally generating an advantage for others to drive to the rim. You can't do that with the post, short roll or midrange shot.

I hope he is preparing to let it fly next season. Will dramatically improve Amen/Whitmore/Green's ability to get to the rim - which is a bigger advantage for the team than one guy slightly improving his midrange jumper or post play.

 

So our 5 has to shoot but our our actual shooting guard (and future PG) get to be employed without actually being good at shooting?

Boy, let me tell Steph and Hali of this amazing concept, they've wasted their careers.

 

I don't care what I wish was the case, what I care about is what's achievable soon. Our SG makes 41% of his catch and shoot so we can get good shooting out of him by simply reducing the pull ups he's taking way too often (at a terrible 29%). Our future PG is not close to being able to shoot.

Sengun should shoot because I BELIEVE in him to be able to do it well. He has been working on it 2 years and just shot 37.5% in the playoffs. It's not a blame game but good job finding some way to twist it into a negative.

You don't need to tell Hali or Curry, they know they've never made a Finals unless their C operated outside the paint.

We're not their parents you know? We want to employ whatever tactics work, it doesn't matter if you're feeling disappointed that such and such player can't do something you hoped. You surround non-shooters with shooters in the position-less era. That's not a favor we do, it's just smart basketball.

 

Curry made plenty of finals without shooting bigs. Bogut had zero range, draymond is a non shooter, looney is a non shooter. Hell, GS for their 1st title started a pf and center who had steven adams range.

 

Only in cfans.net can having a 5 be able to shoot be a must while the backcourt stays a shooting negative. Delusional.

 

Honest question: what about what he said is delusional?

He addressed your direct points and cited stats as evidence (Jalen being good at catch and shoot and terrible at stepbacks) and he said he thinks Alpy has it in him to be a good shooter.

So, again, what was delusional? You think Amen has a better chance at being a good 3-pt shooter faster than Alpy? You just didn’t like what he said you felt like insulting his well-reasoned response?

 

Wonderful; we just need a young Steph Curry and we’ll be all set.

Unfortunately, that seems like it’ll be difficult to achieve, so in lieu of that, Alpy becoming a respectable 3-pt shooter would go a long way.