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2025 Hypothetical Astros Trades Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Snake Diggit, Apr 9, 2025.

  1. Snake Diggit

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    If LMJ stays healthy and keeps dealing, with those 4 we would easily be the team to beat in the AL
     
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    I don't know - the fit is really awkward but I would look really hard at Marcel Ozuna.

    It would mean having Alvarez in the field in the playoffs, and likely Altuve at second.

    However - adding Yordan and Ozuna to the line up could potentially really off set the defensive issues.

    Pena
    Altuve
    Paredes
    Alvarez
    Ozuna
    Diaz
    Walker
    Meyers
    Smith
     
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    I agree that there needs to be 2 to tango. The whole point of FA is to have the choice.

    I'm not saying these wil get done, but that's what I would prioritize and try to accomplish as the Astros GM. And it has to be early enough in the career that the commitment does not extend beyond 3 years after original control ( preferably 2) and the AAV is able to be in the $15M area and only a Hunter Brown level talent gets a $20M offer.

    The Jose Urquidy and Ronel Blanco guys stay original controllable years only and move on if not traded.

    I'm also saying any pitcher not
     
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    The thing is that unless they surprise and get a guy like B Lowe or Donovan, any addition will likely move Altuve back to 2b in the playoffs ( at least vs RHP)
     
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    He absolutely does have a high ceiling.

    However, his physical size is a big disadvantage and lowers his floor.

    I know there have been TOR SP who are small in stature ( Oswalt for one) but you are really reducing the chances of longevity and heavy workload ability.

    I see a world where he becomes a Bryan Abreu type leverage guy.

    In my mind Ullola and Forcucci are the 2 most likely to become #1s. I hear Miller/Murphy are very very high on Forcucci.
     
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    I don't disagree

    I would say this though, i'm not sure the Astros care too much about longevity, if they could possibly get #1 starter for a few years out of a guy like him, they wouldn't likely be signing him longer term than his team control anyway
     
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    You know who might be a low key good super cheap LH 2B addition? Old friend Abraham Toro. He’s benefitting from some batted ball luck but his xwOBA is still .331 which is really good, and his hard hit rate is up over his previous career. He’s absolutely crushing RHP this season. Deploying a Toro/Melton tandem to hide Altuve between LF and 2B might work if no other appealing options materialize.

    Astros get:
    SP Lucas Giolito
    2B Abraham Toro
    $15M ($5M 2025, $10M 2026 against Giolito’s team option)

    Red Sox get:
    P AJ Blubaugh
    IF/OF Shay Whitcomb

    Astros get an upside SP and a LHB at 2B without giving up much.

    Playoff roster:
    SS Pena
    3B Paredes
    DH Alvarez
    LF/2B Altuve
    C Diaz
    RF Smith
    1B Walker
    2B/LF Toro/Melton
    CF Meyers
    Bench: Dubon, Caratini, Salazar
    SP: Brown, Framber, McCullers, Giolito
    RP: Hader, Abreu, King, Okert, Javier, Dubin, Sousa, Arrighetti, Garcia
     
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    And other Boras clients have left for more money elsewhere.
     
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    If he's getable . . . it certainly lengthens the lineup. It feels kinda wrong in a good way LOL.
     
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    Not sure Crane really tried to keep the other ones.

    He also didn't have to give Altuve the first extension (or even the last extension) when he did. Much like he didn't have to extend JV the first time (or bend over backwards with a team unfriendly contract the second time).

    Its clear when Crane wants to hang on to a guy. So far in his ownership, those guys have been JV, Altuve, and Yordan has now entered that group since he was willing to sign the early extension (however Bregman used to also be in that group... and Yordan may also be a double amputee by the time he's up for his post extension renegotiation).
     
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    Potentially available bats who have hit well against RHP this season (wRC+ >120, min 100 pa):

    1B/OF Ryan O’Hearn
    1B/OF Pavin Smith
    1B/DH Josh Naylor
    3B Eugenio Suarez
    1B/2B/OF Jake Cronenworth
    DH/LF Marcell Ozuna
    2B Brandon Lowe
    LF/2B Gavin Lux
    OF Wilyer Abreu
     
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    What Smith is that?
     
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    Ozuna hasn't played LF since 2022. Are you suggesting putting him there or Yordan during the regular season?
     
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    A fair value yet unrealistic trade I think would thrill most of the people on this board:

    Astros get:
    1B Josh Naylor
    SP Merrill Kelly

    Diamondbacks get:
    P Miguel Ullola
    P AJ Blubaugh
    1B Christian Walker
    $20M ($4M 2025, $8M 2026, $8M 2027)

    Astros get a rental lefty bat and a rental #3 SP. They also shed over half of Walker’s remaining salary. Diamondbacks get Walker back where he’s comfortable for a low price as well as get two high upside SP prospects that can slot into their rotation next season.
     
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    Pavin
     
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    Get real now:

    what does it take to get Merrill Kelly?
     
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    Stop trading Ullola. Especially for rentals.
     
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    Meh. I expect prices to be high. Pitching prospects have an incredible bust rate. I want the Astros to improve this year’s team. But really my post was a reverse jinx on Walker. Which worked.
     
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