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Republicans raise the debt ceiling by 4 trillion while kicking millions off insurance

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by astros123, May 12, 2025.

  1. dobro1229

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    I work with the largest healthcare provider on the West coast as one of my clients and we just lost our contract because Doge cuts killed funding for cancer research.

    So down the line you see the effects not just of losing cancer research (I dunno if you’ve lost someone to cancer but call me after you have if it happens and tell me if you still think it should be cut then) but also on the other industries who support the healthcare industry.

    Doge did not cut the “waste” you think it did. We already had inspector generals doing a good job managing teams of investigators overseeing government entities along with DOJ employing thousands. We already had oversight for fraud and abuse. Doge was just an excuse to cut more money in places they THOUGHT the public wouldn’t see but in the end people will eventually notice billions being cut in things like cancer research while never being able to get to a trillion dollars saved for the things your party really cares about… which is tax break for billionaires like Elon and Trump.
     
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    Yes it is but yet they about to cut MC for over 1.5 Million it just doesn't make sense me.
     
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  3. raining threes

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    Sorry to hear this.

    This is the price that the NIH is paying for lying about Covid.
     
  4. HP3

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    What are you talking about??? You arent like these other bozos on here, they are all genuinely bad people. You are not. See reason, stop listening to lies, you are better than that.
     
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  5. dobro1229

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    Care to enlighten us on what the fck you are talking about?

    Kaiser’s cancer research has nothing to do with the Trump admin’s NIH’s handling of Covid. A grant is given to this private company to outsource that research.

    Given your logic solving or finding ways of treating cancer has to go forever because you believe conspiracy theories about … who exactly now?… (Trump was running the US govt so I I guess Trump…) created a virus in a lab in order to hurt Trump’s election?? Or is the theory that it was China?? In that case if China created Covid to hurt Trump, why does that have anything to do with private grant funded cancer research??
     
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    NIH isn't paying the price. People are. Those people include MAGA people fyi.
     
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  7. raining threes

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    Just saying and I'm not saying it's right. But the researchers lied to us about Covid and are now going to be paying the price for lying.
     
  8. dobro1229

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    What researchers? What was the lie? What does it have to do with private cancer research?
     
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  9. raining threes

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    Agreed, but I'm telling you the truth.

    You dont have to like this, but there are consequences for contributing to the Covid lie even if it hurts the people. Why? Because something like the Fauci/Covid lie can never happen again. The way they look at this and I'm not saying they're right is it's better to possibly lose a few to cancer to stop the lying that caused the death of millions and severely damaged the economy.
     
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    The Fauci/Covid lie.

    Fauci was doing private research.
     
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    "The way they look at this" lmao. Yeah, they're doing this because they believe it benefits the people. Good Intentions Paving Company.
     
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    This has nothing to do with good intentions.

    It has to do with numbers and those numbers include deaths and money.
     
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    Please elaborate
     
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    What needs to be elaborated on?

    Are you saying Fauci didn't help fund private research in China because Obama wouldn't let him do it in the USA, or are you saying he didn't lie about the origins of Covid/ Vaccines/Masks/6 foot rule etc.... Are you saying Fauci didn't profit from his lies? Please elaborate.
     
  15. Jugdish

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    Where can I read about this?
     
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  16. dobro1229

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    Dr. Fauci worked for Donald Trump during Covid. What private research was Donald Trump's Covid Taskforce Spokesperson doing that has anything to do with Kaiser cancer research in 2025 that could save or lengthen the life of people you and I know that will develop cancer??

    Because the chances that you or I will have a loved one suffer or die from cancer is like 99%. Tell me one good reason why whatever Trump's Covid Spokesperson was doing on Covid should impact the research that could save or lengthen the life of someone that you or I will know at some point in our lives???
     
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    Can you read?

    Use Google

    Start with Wuhan lab leak origins.
     
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    Trump made a bad mistake trusting Fauci.

    I didn't say that I agreed with what I typed, I said this was the price to be paid for the lies.

    BTW, I've read and used to sell supplemental health insurance Heart Attack/Cancer policies by telling people that they stood a 66% chance of them or one of their family members dying of heart attack/cancer. Probably even a greater chance since I was selling these policies in Golden Triangle Area.
     
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    I've read the bold part like 3 times now, and I'm just scratching my head in disbelief. I just don't know how I can work with this.
     
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    There's a big difference in seeing what's happening and agreeing with what's happening. I just understand where they're coming from, not agreeing with them. If you cant understand this then I dont know what to say and I'm going to move on.
     

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