We need to trade Sengun while his value is at its highest

who said Sengun should be traded for lesser players?

 

I probably did, but with caveats. If we attain Giannis without trading Sengun then, yes, we almost have to trade Sengun. If we could trade for two assets that together make us contenders for years (not sure whom that would be) but yes. If Miami, for instance, said Adebayo (a lesser player) AND Herro (a lesser player) for Sengun then yes again. Sengun is a great player, but Amen is our superstar to build around.

 

I love Amen, but he isn’t a superstar, nor is he better than Alp….yet.

 

That’s where we differ. I do not see Bam as a lesser player. He is very good. 3 time all star. He plays great defense. Switchable on smaller guards. outmuscled Sengun in the times he played him. Can shoot that FT line jumper. Underrated passer.

I believe people are over valuing Sengun for whatever reason that may be. Sengun is good not great as he continues to make several mistakes on both ends. Bam is a very good player. Understands his role and minimizes mistakes.

 

It actually happened yesterday. The tipping point one could say. Amen is in fact now better than Sengun.

 

I actually agree, but I was trying to secede the point to SOF’s, to make the point, that there are moves involving Sengun that would make us a better team and our outlook for a championship even brighter. Riley wouldn’t do it, unless he just thinks the team needs a shakeup and has a coach that can get Jalen and Sengun to the next level, but I would trade Sengun and Jalen straight up for Adebayo and Herro, then trade or jettison FVV. My goal is to build around Amen. Amen, Herro, Durant/Anouby/Tari, Jabari, Adebayo would be very doable if Miami would do the deal. Amen and 4 shooters.

 

I believe you are overvaluing Bam. It's great he can do all that but how does it help with winning his team couldn't make the playoffs in the weak east. He's really more of a role player.
How do you think the Rockets got the 2nd seed in the west with a Sengun centric offense.

If you compare just the most recent season Alpi was better than Bam at almost everything including defense. And Bam is much older he's absolutely an inferior player.

 

I agree with everything except Herro. No defense no toughness. Wilts in some big moments. Better shooter than Jalen but not better at getting to the paint.

 

Sengun is better overall offensively but Bam is better in all other areas. He can also shoot a 15-18 ft jumper. And he’s an underrated playmaker/passer. And as I said Bam does his job well with few mistakes on both ends. We disagree.

 

It is about fit. Adebayo runs the floor better, is a lob threat, and can shoot from outside. Defense is how we got the 2nd seed, offense is why we lost to the 7th seed. Sengun is on offensive player that doesn’t shoot well. There is a valid argument that he can learn to shoot better, but Adebayo is the better shooter right now and shooting is what we need to build around Amen, who is our best chance at a superstar.

 

The stats disagree with you. Alpi was better defensively in every single metric.

 

If it's about fit Jalen is the first to go. All numbers say he's a bad fit. You don't trade your only all star to fit for inferior players. That's terrible logic.

 

"Tyrese Haliburton and Fox don't compliment each other"

Lets trade the actual good player and keep counting on sorry ass Jalen Green and other players with zero offensive bag to improve our offense. Adebayo is a great lob threat on a team with nobody capable of beating their man or initiating offense.

 

Adebayo has been an all-star multiple times. Amen is our best player and the hope of our future. I think Sengun is also could be a multiple all-star. Again it’s just about fit. I’m ok with trading Jalen as well.

 

This goes back to the old metrics discussion. You can’t just rely solely on metrics to support an assessment and determine player value. This is why teams have a whole scouting department along with player development coaches and the main coaching staff. If numbers explained everything Udoka wouldn’t need to watch film or evaluate players visually. He just needs to read a stat sheet. We know this isn’t true.

Numbers don’t explain decision making or a player missing assignments. Numbers don’t accurately account for endurance or how a player rotates or plays help defense. Besides metrics like player def rating uses team defensive ratings in its formula and assumes all players on the court are equally good while attempting to quantify individual defensive value. The heat were at the bottom third of the NBA in team defense. This may help explain why Sengun’s numbers may look better. Numbers tell only part of the story as any coach can tell you.

 

Bam can shoot jumpers beyond 10 ft bro. He isn’t just a lob threat. Also has developed a 3 pt shot.

 

The first person who needs to go is one of the 2 non-shooters.

That's Sengun or Thompson.

Also they have higher value.

Rockets can't build their team around both. In fact it's an open question as to whether you can really thrive with even 1 as the centerpiece.

 

Being an all star in the weak east really means nothing. I don't understand how the Heat missed the playoffs if he's as good as you say. Theoretically he should be like the 5th best player in the east but he just underwhelms. Doesn't impact winning as much as he should.

 

You dont even understand what you are saying. Sengun has more blocks more steals more rebounds. Is one of the best rim protectors and rotates better than anyone on our team. Literally the definition of team defender. But your eye test says he's slow and can't jump so he must not be a good defender. When none of those things are true. Bam sure looks like he should be a better defender when in actuality he is not. We would get killed in the paint with Bam as our center as he is too light in the pants.

 

Amen is not our best player…..yet.