California To will sue Trump over Federalizing The State's National Guard

Those people are too stupid and blinded by their own bigotry to not recognize what this is - political theater. Obama deported more people than any other president in history including Trump and he didn't have to deploy the national guard to do it. Also, Trump killed a bipartisan bill to tackle illegal immigration so he could campaign on the issue. Not to mention, the blatant hypocrisy on display...pardons for Jan 6th insurrectionists but deploy the national guard to California when both the mayor and the governor says it's not necessary.

 

I agree with this - the reality is that the USA is fractured like it was in the Civil Rights era of the 1960's.

About 40% of the country right now fully supports the President and everything that he does. They firmly believe that the USA is overran with illegal immigrants that are committing all of the violence in the country and stealing jobs from "hardworking Americans", and they also believe that a cadre of Liberal elites want to destroy the USA and traditional values.

So when these 40% see the protests and violence in LA, it is confirmation bias. They see illegals/minorities and the liberal elite trying to stop President Trump from protecting America.

This is what happened in the 1960's - and because "liberals" won that era, it is portrayed as clear cut - black freedom fighters, and battles against racism and Vietnam as this "awful" war -- and JFK and LBJ....... but the reality is that MANY Americans did not like MLK or Malcolm X, the Black Panthers were viewed as terrorists, the views on the Vietnam War were split at best for most of the War - and Richard Nixon was polarizing but popular, and it would only be a handful of years until the emergence of Reagan.

I have not trusted Governor Gavin - but if there was ever a chance for him to make a move to be THE political figure for the next decade, this is it ... in California, with Trump and the National Guard and the Marines possibly.... it could blow up in his face, or he could catapult himself into the next decade.

 

And for Gavin, that’s what it’s all about. His career.

 

Why not? Who will stop it?

In all seriousness, Trump is nearly 80 --- and they are REALLY attempting to strip all of the checks and balances away at a lightening pace and that may be what ends up causing their failure. They would be better off slow rolling the taking over of the government.

 

He isn't unique in that regard - but I tend to agree with you, Gavin is about Gavin, but so is the man occupying the Oval Office right now. I don't trust either of them at all.

 

I've lived in CA for close to a decade now. Gavin is inauthentic and lacks any self awareness. He's not going to be any galvanizing force. And I hope the Dems find a better presidential candidate than him in 2028, because he'd get smoked.

 

Gavin's Chinese Laundry foray is what galvanized my opinion of him. He is no different than many other elitest liberals and wealthy conservatives in public office --- there is a set of rules for the "special enlightened elite" and a separate set of rules for the general public.

 

All a distraction to get far away from Elon outing Trump as a Pedophile with Epstein.

DD

 

Trump has a way of connecting with certain groups, and a charisma, that Newsome absolutely lacks. He's polarizing but to a large number of voters, he's beloved (and to a large number of voters, hated).

Newsom is the CA version of Ted Cruz. Both incredibly smarmy but electable in a politically skewed state, but no viability to a broader audience. No convictions, just empty mouthpieces. Nobody that I know in CA loves Newsom, and nobody that I know in TX loves Cruz.

 

The Guard orders are for 29 days. Why an odd number? Because at 30 days, it counts as credit for VA benefits. Also, if under 30 days, the Guard members themselves assume some of the cost of the deployment, including food and lodging. The latter doesn't matter that much, as they will be sleeping in tents at a NG armory or similar place and will get MREs or cold sandwiches or some such, but take my word--those folks notice the game being played. Not a great way to build morale among the troops and word spreads quickly among the Guard units.

 

Trump has charisma - but he is also extremely self-serving. I cannot think of a more self-serving President in my lifetime. Historically, Nixon and Jackson and Johnson come to mind.

I cannot speak on Newsome's charisma, he can do strong soundbites and media clips but that isn't the full picture. I can say that Newsome - like Pelosi, is an extremely self centered and inauthentic person.

 

It is WAY less than 40% - he got elected on 31%.......

DD

 

If I were in the guard I would refuse an unlawful order....

DD

 

I don't agree - his support is around 40% and seldom dips much below that. That also tends to extend to Americans that did not vote.

He has serious issues with Americans when it comes to tariffs, honesty and some other topics - but he also is doing well when it comes to how he has handled immigration and the border. You and I can think it is wrong, but his aggressive approach to deportation, and even his unconstitutional actions are still popular - he has consistently polled at 50% on this issue ....... the approach of the last administration is no doubt part of it, as there was a backlash and over correction --- but it is what it is.

 

There are a lot of things to say about Jackson, but self-serving is not one I'd use. As a 13 year-old, he volunteered to carry messages between troops and when he was captured by the British at age 14, he was ordered to clean a general's boots. He instead spit in the face of the general and got a sword slash across the face for it. His brother was also captured at the same time (after a Tory told the British what house they were in) and both had smallpox in the POW camp with his brother dying from it. An older brother had died a bit earlier fighting against the British. His mother, making a trip to the POW camp to plead with the British for the release of her sons, contracted cholera and died shortly thereafter, leaving Jackson an orphan. Jackson was a racist and a a sociopath/psycho, but by the age of 15 Jackson had done more for this country and sacrificed more for this country than the current president has in nearly 80 years. He also really, really, really hated the British and their king.

 

hasn’t even been a year and the country is headed towards destruction at a lightning pace

 

Courts mean nothing to this Administration
What does winning a court case mean??
This is the beaten and bloodies person getting a token half *sses "sorry"
then the guy starts beating him again . . . .. . .
This Admin don't respond to courts or anything "paper"
They will only respond once the Pew Pew Pewing starts

Rocket River

 

If he was a sociopath, he was self serving.

 

That is all true - and he aged into a bitter, self-serving man that put his own ego and a quest for power above all other concerns... especially after the death of his wife.

I won't argue over his bravery and accomplishments- he was truly larger than life, but people change over time - just like Henry VIII - Andrew Jackson as a young man was not the same as Andrew Jackson as an old man.