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No Durant and No Giannis, what's next?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Whenitsover, Jun 6, 2025 at 4:35 PM.

  1. PeterKingX

    PeterKingX Member

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    Stone will give you another Cody Zeller at deadline. LOL
     
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  2. roslolian

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    Morey was interested in everybody but never got anyone cuz he kept trading the picks for washed vets.

    My bad I thought Giannis was picked 8th.
     
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  3. roslolian

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    Harden trade
    The Nets picks trade
    Sengun was traded

    Such a weird comment
     
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  4. roslolian

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    I agree, Rox should run it back and lets evaluate things at the deadline.
     
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  5. roslolian

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    Really? How many teams win 68 games every year?
     
  6. Little Bit

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    We are not so far off from OKC that we have to pray for injuries and rigging. We can compete with them now. Lots of teams couldn’t beat OKC one time nonetheless multiple times like the Rockets did. I suggest you rewatch the last game we played them. It was our first time employing the double big against them. They had no answer for the Sengun/Adams lineup. Then you add in Amen’s defense against Shai and we were blowing them out by 20 points. Not saying the Rockets can’t make improvements, but to say we have to be the greatest team ever assembled in nba history to be on their level is laughable.
     
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  7. chef0010

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    why do you have a hard time letting our young guys run it back?

    we were the 2nd seed with a young talented roster.
     
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  8. Rokman

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    Bro, who cares about greatest TEAM. We will destroy everyone next year and it's cause we got the best player in the league about to be unleashed. Cocaine Curry or as I like to call him Methamphetamine Michael.
    League ain't prepared for this.
     
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  9. clutchdabear

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    I mean, I'm not trying to downgrade the Rockets - I also think even with our current team we can be competitive with OKC - which is why I said if we have some good fortune and lucky bounces, you never know what happens.

    Maybe I exaggerated a bit, but the point was that making some desperate trade for KD or Giannis isn't making us any more likely to beat OKC than how we are right now with the team as currently constructed.

    Also, the current optics probably make it seem so with OKC not having the most dominant playoffs... but they were the youngest 68 win team and had the largest point differential in NBA history. That's not something to scoff at and to try to create a team that, on paper, looks to be clearly ahead of OKC will take much more than just a KD or a Giannis. The thing is, they'll have to deal with the second apron much sooner than us, so there really is no reason for us to push all-in just to compete with them the next 2-3 seasons.
     
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  10. roslolian

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    Exactly. Posters here act like the team is a scrub or a mediocre team when they got the 2nd seed with a bunch of 20 yr olds and a couple of babysitters.

    If we compare it to Morey era the 2024/25 Rox already beat all the other teams except the 2018 team, and they did it in record time too. This has been the most successful team in the last 7 yrs but all posters wanna do is break it up and add old and soon to be washed stars.
     
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  11. Deuce Rings

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    I don’t give a damn about regular season success.
     
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  12. roslolian

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    Rockets havent won a ring since Hakeem in the 1990s so why are you even here? You spent 30 yrs posting about something you dont care about? lol

    If you dont care about regular season success then dont post here cuz Rox havent made the Finals in 2 decades.
     
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  13. Hemingway

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    It seems as though many of the folks on this board have a real tough time with the nuances of building a team. It isn’t all or nothing, run it back or gut the team. Most reasonable posters are saying if you can get a Giannis for a reasonable package and still have enough assets to build a more balanced roster, than that is not gutting the team, it is a reasonable argument on how to compete for a championship. If getting Giannis takes gutting the team, you simply don’t do it and pursue other ways to take us closer to being a championship contender.

    Running it back implies that we are going to rely on our young players growing organically enough to become contenders. It’s a possibility, but not a probability since it would mean multiple players suddenly learning how to shoot. I think the overreaction is mostly guided by emotional attachment to players as opposed to looking objectively at the talent and determining what will make us more competitive. It also ignores what other teams are doing to improve. OKC is a good example. After winning the conference last year, they still made changes to better balance their roster and now are in the finals.

    If Giannis and Durant aren’t available without “gutting” the team, how do we go about taking the next step? One way is to run it back and hope that Ime becomes a better offensive coach and Jalen Green, Alpi and/or Amen become consistent offensive players that can score from the perimeter as well as the lane. Another way is to expend some of our assets, and yes, maybe trade one of your favorite players for better fits that make us a more balanced team. Resting on the laurels of being a second seed with 52 wins, which is a win total that will normally garner more around a 4 or 5 seed in the West, seems like a looser mentality to me. OKC didn’t run it back, even after winning the conference last year. I think it is kind of like the Texans running it back with Bill O’Brien year after year, because we were winning a crappy division for several years.
     
  14. kspires999

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    This! Too many posters want to overpay for over 30 year players on super max deals by dealing picks and young valuable players. The current roster with the future draft picks can be a contender for a decade with a little tinkering around the edges. Let’s see what the team looks like with Amen starting for a full year.

    The tinkering will most definitely involve a trade or two each year with some of the young core being swapped for missing pieces of the puzzle.
     
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    That’s a reasonable approach that i advocate, although 30 year old players should not be scoffed at if they can be had for a reasonable cost of assets (mostly draft picks).
     
  16. Rokman

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    What's next?

    How about just starting next season now? I'm ready for it.
     
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    I don’t have a problem with consolidating “assets” to get an all nba player. There are only 5 players on the court at one time and one ball to share. The impetus to my post was seeing that Booker is expected to sign a 2yr 150 million extension - on top of the 2 yrs and 112 million he is still due. I don’t want Booker at any price.
     
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    I’m with you on that. I don’t want Booker and am actually starting to think I’d rather not trade for Giannis. If we can jettison FVV and make some other astute moves for 3 and D players, it would make next year so much more fun even if we lost a few more games. I want to take away Ime’s crutch and develop Amen as a Pg. If all we did was that, I’d be excited.
     
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  19. PeterKingX

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    Harden is superstar.
    Any GM can get multiple picks by trading Harden.

    2 good trades in 5 years is not good performance.
     
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    Run it back
     

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