How long before the inevitable fallout between Musk and Trump?

And they say women are overly sensitive, too erratic and emotional to lead. Yet here we have two supposedly powerful men having a public meltdown over social media like teenagers. These two have seriously broken psyches, but Musk is on another level - probably enhanced by whatever external stimuli he's been indulging in.

 

If this were true, the old republican anti trumpers would have a harder time on this side.

There's no easy way to say this, but half the country can easily see what a fraud Trump is and half can't. It's pretty hard not to see you all as morons. Sorry but it's not all some unfair media campaign. Sure there's plenty of that but it's just ****ing obvious.

 

You do not need to apologize for anyone. However you guys who continue to support Democrats as if they are morally and ethically superior can stop insulting anyone who disagrees with you and actually respect other peoples opinions.

For example, instead try actually listening to another opinion and instead of automatically assuming someone elses frame of mind, you can actually take them for their word. I voted Biden over Trump in 2020 because Trump was a shitty (and still is). Biden was a better candidate, not a good candidate. He was actually an awful candidate. Now you guys, in an obedient manner, continue to serve your party even though they repeatedly lied to you non stop, promoted a candidate who has early stage dementia and stage 4 cancer and insisted he was 'sharp as a tack' and well suited to run another term. After the public laughed at that charade (that you obviously believed), your beloved party who you view as morally and ethically superior, decided to appoint a candidate who was a complete loser and one that nobody wanted. Your party is so absolutely stupid and corrupt that we are now forced to deal with this r****d Trump for another 4 years. That is fine, it is still better than Kamala Harris.

Like the Republicans, the Democrats have stopped trying and have let the worst take over your party. We are at the same point as we were in 2022 - That is we know the current president (as in 2022) is not going to be reelected (obviously for different reasons). Republicans at least have a plan. Democrats are still sitting in the same place 4 years ago with no plans, no actions, no ideas. There is no light at the end of the tunnel for Democrats. You guys will cheer and celebrate and continue to insult once the Democrats take control in congress in 2027. You guys will talk about your blue wave and how America is turning on Trump and the Republican party is dead. Democrats will go back to doing absolutely nothing but serving their party instead of helping the county. And once 2028 arrives, your team will have no plans in which you guys will then run some idiot like AOC as a 'populist'.

So you guys can sit back, laugh, and belittle. Trump is indeed a moron and a fraud. However incompetence doesn't win you elections. JD Vance is not Trump.

 

Ah yes, the delicate machinations of the marionette show starring the American public, staged by two drug-riddled, incontinent, incurious, spiteful morons.

 

So . . . .. .you are saying .. . that being a TRUMPER is an insult

Rocket River

 

Look no further for an absolutely stupid party than the GOP. They should have had some balls and stood up and joined everyone else wanting to impeach that pathological lying traitor and con. If they had one ounce of integrity and morals Trump wouldn't even have been eligible to run again, or spew his election interference crap to avoid being held accountable for all his felonious acts. They blackballed and turned on the only Republicans with the integrity to speak the truth. They are to blame. They bow to that creep like cowards. Even now, with Trump's brazen bribes and corruption those idiots defend him. Trump and his MAGA brown shirts are despicable.

 

I wonder who has more dirt on who, Trump or Musk. I think the whole Epstein threat might have had Trump crapping his diaper last night. Just a hunch.

 

After

After talking to a few MAGA people in the past 24 hours it’s obvious that Trump has the upper hand because his voters the core Trump base will not believe anything that Elon “leaks” nor care. There is a loyalty and a personal identity these people have that cannot be shaken by anything Elon can do in his power to expose what he learned about Trump. Elon could post a video of him and Trump getting it on at a Diddy party with Jeff Epstein in the corner making out with Hillary and it wouldn’t move a single vote.

Obviously Elon can hurt the GOP in 2026 if he does want to run another party that aligns with GOP values (corruption, racism, hate, etc.) and splits the vote of the right but beyond that I think Trump has the upper hand here because Trumps base is going nowhere no matter what.

 

What percentage of the GOP are hardcore MAGA?

Rocket River

 

They are both crackheads
With their Drugs of choice

Rocket River

 

You are probably right about them turning a blind eye to Trump's seedy morals and criminal acts. But, when people start losing healthcare and jobs, lose civil rights, see more police abuse ignored, or lose more of their worker's rights and protections because of him then it gets personal if it affects them. Nobody wants to be worse off when promised they will be saved by him, while watching him reap in billions on the side.

 

Isn't this pretty much the textbook definition of a cult?

 

"Democrats are bad too" is such a dumb argument. They have problems, but it's not in the same realm of stupid and corrupt as Republicans. Trump is actively hurting the country economically, socially, and intellectually. He's breaking societal and government norms and guard rails. Your run of the mill, status quo Democrat is vastly superior to Trump, Republicans and MAGA.

It's ****ing obvious. Morons voted for a moron and we are getting moronic policy. And not just nationally. These dip ***** are passing state legislation based off their conspiracies and backwards, racists and closed minded views. This guy sums it up pretty well. MAGA is on the wrong side of history.

 

Strong.

 

Trump's quote reveals everything about his corrupt mindset: "The easiest way to save money in our Budget, Billions and Billions of Dollars, is to terminate Elon's Governmental Subsidies and Contracts. I was always surprised that Biden didn't do it!" He assumes everyone abuses power like he would - using government contracts as political weapons. But Biden didn't cancel Musk's deals despite their disagreements, proving there actually ARE principled leaders.

Unlike @Space Ghost's cynical and lazy "both sides are bad" narrative, Trump's own words show the clear difference between corrupt and principled governance.

 

The next Administration should nationalize SpaceX and Starlink

 

Your team tried to run a man with dementia and stage 4 cancer with intentions to hand it over to the biggest Democrat loser of my lifetime. Your team, the one you adamantly support, continue to defend these actions.

Meanwhile, all you fools keep thinking you're insulting me by dunking on the Republicans. The Republicans have been trash. Democrats have proven they are no better. Both parties have fallen and you can't even muster up a little acknowledgement that you all are just as r****ded as the Republican. You can argue all day long if you're more or less r****ded than Republicans, but in the end, you're all a bunch of r****ds.

 

Trump basically started an insurrection and he got elected president. Dirt can't stick on him.