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[Official] Texans Offseason Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Castor27, Jan 19, 2025.

  1. J.R.

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    Texans were linked for 1.5 seconds

     
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    I think the Texans did an excellent job in the 2 WR`s from Iowa, it was much needed and while they might not be flashy, I see a great comp to Nico and Tank. I don't expect Tank back this year, and I am not sure how he will be but I haven't heard one thing about his progress which I thought was odd
     
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    Let's go over your premise here... You contend that Darby, who has made $47M in his playing career, signed a contract with the Texans - when he had no intention of ever playing for them - so he could "steal" $300K, despite the fact he almost certainly knew that, if the team sought repayment, he'd be on the hook for $300K.

    That's what you think happened?

    He's earned $47M. I won't pretend to know what his "net worth" is - but unless he's just been historically awful with a very large amount of money... $300K - which carries the very real risk of having to be repaid - is, indeed, a drop in the bucket.

    You've literally called him a thief.

    Did you call him a thief?

    So your position here is that, unless a player has fulfilled the terms of his contract, he cannot retire?
     
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    I didn’t call him a thief. I said that is akin to stealing.
    Career earnings have nothing to do with net worth. I’m sure you’re aware of that.

    Again, no one is attacking the person. The act is what is being discussed, surely you can distinguish the two.

    If you have not fulfilled a single portion of your contract, you shouldn’t be entitled to any compensation. Hence the ability to go after said bonus that was collectively bargained.

    I would have no issue with it if he at least went through training camp.
     
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    ill say this- If i paid a contractor to renovate my bathroom and they needed 25% down, and I paid them said 25% down for them to get started in a week, yet they havent started a month later and dont intend to start, I would say thats stealing. Thats why theres recourse in the act of suing for taking money for no job done. Same as the Darby situation- knowing full well and having plans to retire but and not fulfilling duties. Thats why theres recourse in the CBA to go after it by the franchise.

    Maybe these players know that these mega nfl frnachises rather just give them the petty change, just to move on and be done with it. Doesnt make it right, and technically doesnt it make it wrong, but ethically......
     
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    College kid Frank Ross on deal or no deal

     
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    Unless you sign a contract that states the down payment is non-refundable.

    Again, when & where did Darby declare he had no intention of playing for the Texans? Because if he did make such a declaration, the team would be going after the bonus. Are they?

    Or... maybe things changed unexpectedly for Darby, and he and the Texans met to discuss the situation with both sides being satisfied with how things played out?

    Again, why are we so quick to villianize a player who, as far as we know, did nothing wrong?
     
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    Help me out here... what do we call people who steal, an accusation you have made about Ronald Darby repeatedly?

    I can't fathom why you think this is a meaningful distinction? He's earned $47M, and you're accusing him of duplicitous behavior to scam $300K. If you can't understand why those two ideas crash into each other, I don't know what else to say. Not to mention, he would've known he might have to repay his signing bonus, which make it even less likely this was his plan.

    These distinctions you keep making are not digging you out of this hole: you've accused him of knowingly signing a contract with the intention of breaking it so he could pocket $300K, even though, at some point, he would've been informed losing the bonus was a possibility.

    That's a different argument, and one you should have with the NFLPA. The signing bonus, per the CBA, is guaranteed. The Texans are free to pursue repayment. Perhaps they will? Perhaps they negotiated a settlement? Or perhaps, after meeting with Darby and hearing his story, they elected not to? All of these scenarios are infinitely more viable that the accusations you're making.
     
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    You do realize everything you’re saying is wrong, right?
    Specially about the signing bonus.

    Of that 47 mil in potential earnings, roughly half would have went to taxes. Who knows how much towards wasted expenses.
    To say that 300k is nothing to a millionaire, shows you aren’t a millionaire.

    I didn’t accuse anyone of stealing, I said the act seems like stealing. Anyone that would go into a contract with any inclination they would retire in full health is wrong.
    Which is why teams are allowed to go after bonuses post retirement.
     
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    I do love this bbs
     
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    I don't usually expect to hear about all the procedures when multiple procedures are required. Each is often contingent on recovery from the prior procedure. Most people do not expect him to return this season, but they don't shut it down entirely. Perhaps to retain motivation for Tank in case everything goes well with no setbacks.
     
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    Regarding the Darby situation...doesn't SIGNING the contract fulfill all his contractual obligations in order to receive a SIGNING bonus?
     
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    The devil is always in the details.
     
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    https://www.houstonchronicle.com/sp...-texans-ring-of-honor-retirement-20364548.php

    The Houston Texans have set a pretty high bar for entrance into their Ring of Honor inside NRG Stadium. So far, the only players to have their names enshrined on the wall are Hall of Famer Andre Johnson and future Hall of Famer J.J. Watt, joining team founder Bob McNair.

    DeAndre Hopkins, who signed with the Baltimore Ravens in the offseason and will be entering his 13th season in the NFL, says it “would be cool” for him to be honored up there one day, while also wondering if he played for the team long enough to deserve it.

    Appearing on Houston trainer Dose Khan’s podcast “Daily Dose — Tell Your Truth” this week, Hopkins talked about how happy he was to see Johnson get his name in the Ring of Honor because the veteran receiver took him under his wing when Hopkins was drafted by the Texans in 2013.

    That’s when Khan, who owns Houston’s Khango Gym and trains both Johnson and Hopkins as well as Pittsburgh Steelers cornerback Darius Slay, brought up the possibility of Hopkins joining his mentor one day.

    “I didn’t say it, but I’m not going to say I don’t think about that as well. I am human, of course,” Hopkins said. “I love Houston. I still live here, my family lives here, so of course, that would be cool to be in the Houston Ring of Honor one day.”

    To his credit, Hopkins, who turned 33 years old Friday, immediately started honestly critiquing his credentials as he thought about it more.

    “Even though I only played what seven years here? That’s short. That’s not a long time to be on a team. I don’t know, man,” Hopkins said. “Now that I think about it, do I deserve to be in the Ring of Honor?”

    Hopkins’ case is interesting, because he may be the next Texans player to go into the Hall of Fame after Watt.

    Hopkins’ Canton credentials are growing. He’s 16 catches away from becoming the 16th player in NFL history to reach 1,000 receptions and 35 yards short of becoming the 21st player to reach 13,000 career receiving yards.

    “No matter what, God has done me well, Hall of Fame or not,” Hopkins said on the podcast.



    ;)

    All love but it’s probably not gonna happen.
     
  19. Buck Turgidson

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    It's almost like words have meaning...who'da thunk it?
     
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    Have no idea what's going on but thats pretty cool.
     
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