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Who's for signing Tyus or Tre Jones?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by VoR, May 31, 2025.

  1. Joe Joe

    Joe Joe Go Stros!
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    FVV is better than Sexton.
    Shepperd will likely will be better than either Jones going forward.

    Ty Jerome, I would add him for the MLE. I expect he will be a Net or a Cav.
     
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    In a vacuum FVV is better than Sexton and the two guys this thread is about are not good enough to worry about. But roster building should not be done in a vacuum. Sexton shouldn’t be a replacement for FVV, but he might be a better fit on this team (depending on what other moves we make) than Jalen. It doesn’t mean that FVV is a good fit on this team to say he is better than Sexton. The question should be in the context of all the moves that are made to move the roster closer to championship contention. Hopefully most objective Rocket fans can agree that our backcourt is a problem. How to solve that problem is up for debate.
     
  3. Stephen_A

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    mitchell is nice. Small but tough and tenacious. Developed a 3. Can pass. Need to see more of him but I like what I see especially last year with Miami
     
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  4. VoR

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    Sexton costs half as much and is better, imo. Shepperd is trade leverage. He doesn't fit in Ime's system and the FO already knows it. Either of the Jones as a backup PG is better than Holliday.
     
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  5. Joe Joe

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    FVV will not cost around $38M next season for the Rockets so the cost in money isn't going to be close to half. Considering Sexton is a Jazz, the cost also must account for loss of pick(s) to get him. The cost to the Rockets regarding what they can do is much higher for Sexton than FVV as it is very unlikely FVV's salary is an issue, you can't get cap space, and he doesn't cost a prospect or pick.

    If Sheppard doesn't fit Ime's system, Sexton doesn't. Granted, Ime plays Green. I think too much is made of Ime's system except that if given the choice, Ime plays FVV over Sexton because Sexton doesn't play defense and throws the ball to the other team too much. It doesn't matter that either Jones is better than Holiday as they would not play over Shepperd.
     
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  6. shakes05

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    Rather have LJ Cryer
     
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  7. Stephen_A

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    interesting
     
  8. No Worries

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    If the Ime and the Rockets plan on using FVV as the starting 1 next season, they desperately need a backup 1, so that FVV plays closer to 32 mpg versus 42 mpg. The Jones bros both can run a NBA offense as a backup 1. If either of the two would accept that role and contract (two year contract, backup 1 $$$), there is a spot on the roster for them.

    I think that we all would like to see Amen be the backup 1 next season and the starter in a few season down the road ... but ... Amen has loose handles and a shot that needs work. The Rockets could have Amen work on the skills, just by running a few sets per game where Amen is the point forward. Either he develops those skills or he does not.

    I think that fewer of us here would like to see Reed Sheppard get minutes at the backup 1. Reed has never been the starting 1 in HS, college or the NBA. I would like for Reed to get backup minutes at the 2 next season and like Amen the Rockets could run a few sets per game with Reed at the point. Either he develops those skills or he does not.

    Even with Amen and Reed running a few sets per game as point, the Rockets still need a backup 1.
     
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    I like Sexton but not giving up Reed.
     
  10. Joe Joe

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    I'm guessing Reed and Amen play a good portion of the minutes together when FVV is off the court, such that the ball handling responsibility isn't on one player when FVV is off the court.
     
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    I think that you are likely wrong. I wish you were right.

    Ime did not use this rotation last year, so he may have serious doubts about it.
     
  12. Joe Joe

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    Thompson is the player Sheppard played with the most last season. The likely only doubts Ime has about Shepperd and Amen is whether Shepperd is ready.

    If I'm wrong, it will likely be due to Jalen Green-Amen Thompson lineups are used when FVV sits or the Rockets make a big trade removing FVV or Reed or adding a star guard. I just don't see Stone adding a backup PG in the offseason. At deadline if Reed craps the bed again, sure Stone will adjust.

    Edit: I should say, I don't see Stone adding an old backup PG this offseason. I think Stone would be fine with getting someone that will be good as a backup for a while.
     
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    If Sengun, Green and Amen are all on the roster, there's no sense in getting a floor general at the 1. Those 3 are going to dominate the ball and 2 of them are a negative on offense without the ball. We can't take the ball out of Amen and Sengun's hands so that Tre Jones can have it. It's a waste of time, just get them 3&D players at all other positions.

    For the love of god stop adding players to this team who are useless without the ball. We need guys who are excellent without the ball whether on defense or if left open on offense.
     
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    Exactly.
     
  15. Joe Joe

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    Best 3 and D PGs (good defense, good catch and shoot 3 point percentage, not excessively turning the ball over)
    Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
    Miles McBride
    Cade Cunningham
    Jrue Holiday
    Fred VanVleet
    Lonzo Ball

    Removing the high usage ALL-NBA guys that some may consider too good to be 3 and D leaves
    Miles McBride
    Jrue Holiday
    Fred VanVleet
    Lonzo Ball
     
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    would love to give ty holiday's spot
     
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    Can penetrate and facilitate out of the penetration better than vanvleet imo. For cheaper. Which i think is a big need for this offense.
     
  18. Stephen_A

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    really interesting player.
     

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