Since 2015, teams are 7-0 in playoff series with 45.8% FG% & 39.5% 3P% or better (2025 Rox minus JG)

To follow up what I posted with the screenshots, Jalen did not play well and I don't believe anyone on this site is saying this including myself. He made several wrong reads either going for a pullup midrange when he should have driven or settling for a contested 3. He also missed some wide open threes,

He made several correct reads where guys like Tari, Bari, and Brooks simply missed. He made several correct reads to Sengun off a screen when they doubled him or when the lane was clogged.

Warriors game plan was to make him uncomfortable the whole game.
-Made him drive left many times
-Guarded him 35-40 ft away from basket
-Blitzed screens
-Doubled him off a screen
-Clogged the lanes with a big specifically waiting and guarding the drive
-sagged their wings and corner to make paint extra tight

This was what happened. It was a combination of him not playing well, Warriors game plan to take him out, and other Rockets players not finishing or shooting well.

 

@bustamove

hey a$$hole. Since you weirdly keep putting my name in your all of your responses.

"That formula could be thought of as ‘points per shot.’ We essentially want a scoring metric that represents ‘points per shooting possession,’ including possessions in which a player attempts a shot that isn’t counted as a FGA because they were fouled."

"And that’s basically what TS% is. A measure of scoring efficiency based on the number of points scored over the number of possessions in which they attempted to score."

Explaining True Shooting Percentage (TS%) - The Spax

What Is True Shooting Percentage (TS%) In Basketball | Dunkest

 

just asking because that's what all the JOFs been saying

they said GSW was "scheming" against Jalen

it looks like their main scheme was single coverage using either curry, podz, heild, or spencer

 

Kobe was 19. At Jalen’s age he was winning championships.

 

He also had Shaq.

 

Thanks, Stephen, these are all good points. And he is doubled in those plays, I get that (though sometimes doubled in the post).

I agree that GSW wanted to pressure Jalen and force him to pass or get past a double-team. But he couldn't do that. And a starting SG on a team with playoff dreams has to be able to handle it better. I can't give him a pass for this being his first playoffs, just pass the ball off. I appreciate your pics of the games. In those pics I see wide open players who can take advantage of the double team and Jalen can't get it to them (you might have already addressed this). Again, I need a SG that can beat the double team, or make the right read and pass off to the open may. Jalen had tons of difficulty with these things. He's a fourth year player, he has to do better.

A lot of the time, Jalen was simply funneled to Draymond and he was squashed one-on-one.

First, this should end the idea that Jalen can be a PG. That has been floated around and I don't see how that's defensible at this point. His handle should be better and so should his decision-making. Other players pass out of this double-team and it creates an advantage for the offensive team (4 on 3).

Second, I worry that other teams will guard Jalen similarly and we will see the same ineffectiveness. There's a chance Jalen was in his head this series. That's not good (though likely fixable with a sports psychologist).

Third, Jalen wasn't doubled when he shot. He's a starting SG on a playoff team and shooting in single coverage against Curry or Hield. He failed there.

Fourth, where does Jalen go from here? If he's a shot creator, then does he need a pick to create? Most starting SGs can break the double-team at least some of the time. Every team will clog the paint and force Jalen to be a jump shooter. It goes back to shot-making. He's not making his case to be a shot creator if you can give him a little pressure and he's neutralized. That looks more like a player who should be set up by teammates or a catch and shoot player. Is that what Jalen needs to be?

 

Jalen is a bust, get over it

 

stop wasting your time on the fanbase of excuses

Sengun fans: yeah he needs to improve his efficiency in the paint and FTs, and he needs a passable 3pt shot. not using daymond green/warriors defense and Alpi's age/experience as an excuse

Amen fans: yeah he needs to imrpove his jump shot and FTs and he needs a 3pt shot. not using butler/warriors defense and Alpi's age/experience as an excuse

Jalen fans: but GSW, Kerr, Curry, Hield, Podz, Spencer, Ime, spacing, Sengun, Amen, age, experience, etc...

 

It's asinine to think that shooting poorly while not being double teamed from a former #2 pick is going to garner any sympathy! Especially after being in the league for 4yrs!! I think it's time to call a Spade a Spade!!

I was really hoping that Jalen would've taken a clear step forward this year and calmed the waters, BUT he didn't! Instead, he appears to be stuck in "Groundhog Day"! Flashes greatness in spurts and then royally undermines any apparent progress by reverting to wannabe mode! After 4yrs of seeing the YoYo affect in his game, I'm ready to pull the plug on the Jalen Green experiment...

(P.S.) Not looking to do a back and forth with anyone... just voicing my opinion.


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Yes I agree in terms of one on ones he should have done better. He was not aggressive when he should have been, shot poorly, and made some wrong reads. There is no excuse and both he and fans know this. But we have to be objective. He did break some doubles but either missed a layup or got fouled or passed put. As I mentioned he passed out to weakside, or Sengun in the middle, or shooters.

The other part to this goes back to how we play. This has been discussed thoroughly on this site.

Rockets often place Sengun on top of the key or high post area.

When he is on top of the key the defending big slides over to double Green or any ball handler the Rockets use. The wing defender slides over to guard Sengun.

When Sengun is in the high post the defending big completely ignores him and camps in the paint.

Amen is usually either in the corner strong side or weakside which is useless since he can’t shoot. So already the Rockets are disadvantaged with such a compressed offense.

This is just one example of the issues with this team. Green isn’t the only one not being able to drive. Other teams like MIN or OKC play 5 out ball or iso so it’s difficult to double. They also have corner shooters. I will post some photos of what I’m talking about soon.

 

did you not read that I said he didn’t play well?

 

The hardest part for me is that I think we need real personnel changes to compete with OKC (and others) in the playoffs. For the offense to change we need to go from a "core 7" to a "core 3" with shooters. It's probably a 4 out team, where everyone except Sengun can shoot 3's efficiently. Brooks and Jabari might work. Jalen maybe. Fred can shoot (not so much this year) but can he create shots for others? If Amen can't shoot a 3 then it's hard for me to see how it works with him and Sengun. There are probably 8-10 centers who can shoot threes so I can handle if Sengun can't. Sengun shooting 30-35% would help, though. Amen plus Sengun probably requires three deadeye shooters and I don't know if any of our players are that. Then, do we trade almost everyone not named Amen or Sengun to get these shooters?

 

lol wut

That said... yeah, Jalen sucked when he was actually trying to score, and he simultaneously seemed to passive many times when we needed him to be aggressive. That's a bad combo, although I'm sure the two were not unrelated.

 

Jalen Green is an ANCHOR around the neck of the Rockets getting a ring, he needs to go, he is mentally SOFT, and will never be a dude. He is a front runner, a guy whose confidence goes up when he plays against weaker players, but tanks when he plays peers or people better than him.

You can't build around a guy that is this soft......he has to go for the Rockets to reach their potential, he is in the way of others that are not as soft.

DD

 

Old man Curry locking up Jalen is wild. I dislike Curry so this hurts me. If Jalen wasn't the #2 pick and didn't have the sizable salary, I don't think folks would be as pressured on him, but dilemma is #minutes and #shots in the future. There's only so much time a team can keep at it for a player, there other guys waiting in the pipeline.

A person young in human age is not the same as young in NBA career. Average span of a NBA career depending on one's definition: 4-8 years. He's already a chunk into it and got a payday. I wish him well, but he might be better suited on another squad.

 

I’m all about being realistic and objective. Yeah Curry locking him up was definitely surprising and disappointing but it happens. These are professional players and every player is capable of making good plays. And Curry has worked on his D thru the years being a serviceable defender. Curry had one maybe 2 good defensive stances against Green but Green also torched him several times. It still was disappointing to see him not blowing by Curry every time. What was worse for me is the blown layups and settling for mid range shots or contested 3s.