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2025 Hypothetical Astros Trades Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Snake Diggit, Apr 9, 2025.

  1. Buck Turgidson

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    Not the worst plan, but not the best either
     
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    I have seen Phish twice one even opening up for Dead and Company at my son's request.
    Crowd smelled very similar to metro in Paris.

    Been to 17 Rush shows. All I smelled there was some good Buda.
     
  3. Snake Diggit

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    Add Martin Perez to this list. Heaney would be my #1 target.
     
  4. Snake Diggit

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    Braves blockbuster since their season is tanking and their ace just heard his elbow pop:

    Astros get:
    2B Ozzie Albies
    SP Chris Sale

    Braves get:
    OF Zach Dezenzo
    SP Miguel Ullola
    2B Brice Matthews
    P AJ Blubaugh
    P Forrest Whitley

    Astros get a good switch hitting 2B (although he hasn’t been that good outside of 2023) and a ToR SP. Braves get 4 of Houston’s top 10 prospects and a high ceiling controllable RP.

    Houston’s playoff roster:

    SS Pena
    3B Paredes
    DH Alvarez
    LF Altuve
    1B Walker
    2B Albies
    RF Smith
    CF Meyers
    C Diaz
    Bench: Dubon, Caratini, McCormick, Salazar
    SP: Valdez, Brown, Sale, McCullers
    RP: Hader, Abreu, King, Okert, Sousa, Dubin, Javier, Gusto, Arrighetti
     
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  5. Joe Joe

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    2B that has not fared well with the shift ban. 6 letters. Starts with an A. His home fanbase loves him.

    Seems familiar.
     
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  6. Snake Diggit

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    How would you all feel about this deadline:

    Out: SP Framber Valdez, RP Bryan Abreu, C Victor Caratini, OF/IF Shay Whitcomb, OF Zach Dezenzo, P Trey Dombroski

    In: SP Andrew Heaney, C Joey Bart, IF Kevin McGonigle (MLB #26), DET #2), SP Ty Madden (DET #12), P Owen Hall (DET #9), C Alirio Ferrebus (PHI #26)

    That would dramatically improve the farm while keeping the 2025 roster competitive. If Yordan is out thru July this team is cooked this season.
     
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  7. IdStrosfan

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    I agree that it all hinges on how long Yordan is out.

    With 6 playoff spots, at this point it is still very likely that the Astros make it. Then, as long as Yordan is healthy by mid-September you can't trade Framber or Abreu.

    If he is out or this team spirals in the next 8 weeks then trade all the rentals.

    The more I look the more I am convinced that Dezenzo and Whitcomb are the same player. Only room for 1 of them and no sweat if both are moved as long as its a reasonable return.

    While researching Melton I came up with some interesting comps.

    Chisholm
    Marsh
    Will Venable
    Carroll
    Bellinger

    Probably Ks too much for Carroll

    Probably too valuable in CF to play 1b like Bellinger ( and more SB but likely fewer HR)
     
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    I’m fine with all those trades. I think it’s preposterous to say “if Yordan is out until blah blah blah then that means blah blah blah.”
    None of that **** matters. We are basically in first place and we gained ground this month with him not playing the entire month. I strongly suspect that someday Arrighetti would come back. LMJ can keep throwing yakkers until his arm breaks. We’ve got Spahn and Spain and pray for rain with brown and Framber, a good bullpen, and I think pretty soon Gordon will be down and Ullola will be up.
    like- we are fine. We are making the playoffs, when we get there we need to be healthy and dialed in and from that time on it’s the same coinflip scramble it’s always been.
     
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  9. Snake Diggit

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    I have thought Marsh was a good comp for Melton but I am hopeful Melton will hit more HR and be a little more valuable.
     
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    Here’s my hot take. I’ve seen enough of Dana browns talent evaluation to think he’s as good or better than lunwho.

    Offer up Alvarez, Valdez, Arrighetti, Caratini,and Walker for the best pick packages and let brown restock the farm completely. Move paredes to first. Put smith at third and bring up Matthew’s to play second.

    let altuve dh and play spot duty for the balance of his career.
     
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    Trade: Walker, Dubon, McCormick, Meyers, Alvarez, Caratini, Framber, Hader, Abreu, Okert, Ort, Whitley

    Extend: Pena and Paredes

    2026 roster:
    C Diaz
    1B Dezenzo
    2B Matthews
    SS Pena
    3B Paredes
    RF Smith
    CF Melton
    LF Whitcomb
    DH Altuve
    SP Brown, McCullers, Javier, Arrighetti, Ullola

    Re-stock the bench and bullpen from the farm and cheap free agents. That pool of traded players should result in the best farm in baseball.
     
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    Luis Robert has become a total trash player
     
  13. IdStrosfan

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    Marsh has actually been much better than most people realize.

    Even with a -0.6 bWAR this year he has averaged 2.2 bWAR per 500 PAs.

    He is awful vs LHP and Melton has also been very weak in that part of the game in the minors.

    That's not much of an issue for the 2025 Astros because they have Meyers, not to mention only about 30% of pitchers are LH.

    Pair that with the fact that he is actually a very good defender in CF.

    Then, of course consider that being good overall offensively but terrible vs LHP means you are quite good vs RHP which should be a huge help to this Astros team if it does play out that way.

    I agree that Marsh is likely a disappointing outcome, but not disastrous.
     
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    And then look forward to being a force in 2027 !!
     
  15. Buck Turgidson

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    Because the most important thing for a MLB contending franchise is to "improve the farm" this year

    I don't see how that team stays competitive. I guess if we really wanted to we could go dick around with the A's and Rangers
     
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    This is a 2009 comment bro
     
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    while we are competitive this season, our injuries have limited the ceiling to where we’d be a scrappy playoff team. I don’t see any trades we’d make putting that ceiling in jeopardy. But I do see a talent infusion strategy as a way to significantly improve our outlook and financial flexibility.
     
  18. Buck Turgidson

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    You love the minor leagues more than the majors. It's pretty obvious.

    And that's cool.
     
  19. Snake Diggit

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    Meh. I like following some aspects of the minors very much (obviously). I rarely watch minor league games in their entirety. I watch 100+ Astros games each season. But mostly I understand that without a good minor league system, it’s only a matter of time before the major league team is not fun to watch anymore.
     
  20. Buck Turgidson

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    So you're just trying to expedite that process?

    ;)
     
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