I know he has a mental meltdown every once in a while. And I close my eyes every time there is a tapper towards him. But he has been nails 90% of the time he takes the mound for years. Yesterday, even if he had gone 5 shutout innings and been pulled because he scattered 5 hits, walked 3 more and threw 100 pitches, that would have wrecked the bullpen for Saturday and Sunday ( after Friday's debacle). If they win, or even split this series he is a huge reason why. He has made himself a very rich man. Maybe his age and the history of age regression for ground ball pitchers scares everyone. Maybe he signs for less than 5 yrs and $150M but I don't see it. I'm just going to enjoy him for 5 more months.
Been wanting them to offer him any deal. He'd accept it. He is that type of compadre. He can get his colognes at Macys rather than shopping at the Dior store. Same goes for Dayz. That combo interview yesterday was pretty gewd.
I agree. The window to sign him is closed and NO SP is worth that, IMO. He will be a Met this time next year.
I think Framber is one of those rare workhorse level pitchers, guys that use to abound in MLB a few generations ago. Framber is excellent at keeping his pitch count low, and thus he gets deep into games. He does this so well because he isn’t a thrower that seek whiffs and strikeouts. He actually wants hitters to make contact, albeit weak ground ball contact. Even so, his strike out numbers are relatively higher that I’d expect for a ground ball pitcher. Framber’s mentality is you either make weak contact or strike out. Hitters are generally caught between a rock and a hard place when it come to Framber. Framber will be highly sought after in the offseason, I would expect that if he hits the open market he will be in the 4 year 140 million range; 3 year 120 million; 6 year 190 million range. A shorter deal will mean a lot more money up front. But we must remember, the workhorse starter that is actually elite is becoming the unicorn in baseball. Those guys are able to save up your bullpen, and they can be invaluable. Framber has a long history of success, but we’ve also seen him fall apart for stretches at a time. So it’s a risky move if you ask me. But I would absolutely be thrilled if the Astros and Framber found commonplace ground to get a deal done. I suppose the Astros know what they have in the minors, so they may no be feeling the pressure to succumb to the highest bidder level negotiations. Nevertheless, it has been a lot of fun watching Framber go from frequently frazzled pitcher to formidable ferocious Ace.
I would offer him three years / 100 million to begin in the off season today. If he takes it I count myself very fortunate, if not I wish him well and perhaps trade him at the break. Brown is a first time Ace this season Framber has been doing it for us for a long time now.
I wanted Framber traded in the off season But now the only way he gets traded is if they fall out of it. And they need a lot more games like today in order to get that far behind in 2 months.
I do not consider the Astros play off likelihood or the lack thereof in my decision regarding Valdez. If he is uninterested in 3 years/100 million I want about 5 of the very best A+, A or FCL prospects for him immediately after the draft. First come first served.
I would be happy to make the same deal for Alvarez at the same time. We would be unstoppable for another ten years.
His performance looks particularly amazing considering the other two games in this series. This team doesn’t have the offense to compete with a bad SP on the mound.
Yordan is already locked up for the next three seasons. Are you trying to extend him three more past that?
Oh wow. Trading our only star hitter in his prime while he’s on a team friendly contract for multiple seasons. That’s mental. Any player who we got in trade would be lucky to be half the player Yordan is. We may as well be the As. Luckily the team would never consider that.
He is already half a player. He is limited to DH and so is Altuve. He is more injury prone every year, and I would never trade him for only one player.
Yes but prospects are just that. Some of those 5 guys might make the bigs, some might not. But the likelihood is none end up as stars. We have plenty of OK players already. What we are lacking is star power and trading all our stars is not the way to compete. And Yordan played plenty of LF last year although they were trying to preserve him this year (so much for that). Altuve is not DHing much at all. So you’re factually incorrect. And hitting is more important than defense, certainly in the case of a LF like those guys.
Altuve sucks in LF, really sucks, and Yordan is too fragile to play LF. They are both limited to DH most of this season and for the rest of their careers. One will have to be traded or released. Altuve has no trade value and is the face of the Astros. I would never trade him unless he asked to be traded. Yordan has what is probably the highest trade value in the league for a very short time. He should easily yield at least two starters and a couple of high value position playing prospects at the break. He will never be that valuable again in his career. I will usually concede that most things here are just a matter of opinion but in this case I believe you are just wrong.
