Since 2015, teams are 7-0 in playoff series with 45.8% FG% & 39.5% 3P% or better (2025 Rox minus JG)

Jalen isn't an NBA level player -- we need to just cut our losses and move on.

 

we just need to download an upgraded patch for jelen. he'll be fine

 

Back to you, Earnie.

 

This just seems like a weird pull that's more a function of small sample size, though of course higher shooting efficiency is better

But yeah, Jalen sucked in the playoffs, outside of game 2.

 

What if you factor out Senguns stats? Do you get the same result?

 

Disagree….he is a superstar in the making. Kobe struggled his first playoff series too. This board needs to learn about basketball history before giving up our best player for cents on the dollar!!!!!

 

I feel like anybody who still thinks JG is going to be a superstar is in denial at this point

I can see thinking he will still make an all-star game or two. The superstar ship has sailed IMO. He will never be a top 5 player, or probably even a top 15 player (All-NBA).

 

How silly.

Jalen was the only regularly double teamed player in the playoffs. That's not your problem. He scored 13 points on 12 shots.

Sengun was 21 points on 19 shots on single coverage.

Amen was 15 points on 12 shots on less than single coverage with a mediocre defender. You really think Amens current ceiling is just 15 points against a mediocre defender?

This team did not perform well offensively, stop bullsh*tting yourself. All of these players are better than their playoff scoring stats. We shot well from 3 only because we had an absurdly low number and share of 3PA. A clear sign we should've taken more 3's rather than forcing Adams into a key role.

 

Jalen wasn't double teamed. But you know this, Math.

 

These threads are ridiculous Jackson Gatlin.

 

Total: 44.6/37.4
w/o JG: 45.9/39.6
w/o AS: 44.4/37.3
w/o FVV: 44.9/34.5

Cavs: 369 3PA across 9 games (41.0) (36.3 3pt%)
Heat: 159 3PA across 4 games (39.7) (34.6 3pt%)
Celtics: 433 3PA across 11 games (39.3) (36.0 3pt%)
Lakers: 194 3PA across 5 games (38.8) (35.1 3pt%)
Warriors: 465 3PA across 12 games (38.75) (35.3 3pt%)
Bucks: 190 3PA across 5 games (38.0) (37.9 3pt%)
Thunder: 599 3PA across 16 games (37.4) (33.6 3pt%)
Wolves: 556 3PA across 15 games (37.0) (35.8 3pt%)
Grizzlies: 138 3PA across 4 games (34.5) (30.4 3pt%)
Nuggets: 480 3PA across 14 games (34.2) (34.6 3pt%)
Pacers: 501 3PA across 15 games (33.4) (39.3 3pt%)
Clippers: 231 3PA across 7 games (33.0) (36.4 3pt%)
Knicks: 538 3PA across 17 games (31.6) (35.3 3pt%)
Pistons: 188 3PA across 6 games (31.3) (32.4 3pt%)
Magic: 156 3PA across 5 games (31.2) (26.3 3pt%)
Rockets: 198 3PA across 7 games (28.2) (37.4 3pt%)

 

I wonder how many more ways we can say Jalen wasnt good in the playoffs.

I think we can milk another 10 threads this off-season easy on this topic.

 

You're the only person in the world I've heard say this. I saw the double teams. I saw the HC of both teams, their DPOY, several players on our team, their media, our media, this board and ESPN say he was double teamed aggressively.

Do you really think I'm going to play along with your weird ass imagination?

 

Show me where he's double-teamed. He certainly wasn't in the first or third game of the series. I haven't watched them all again because I saw no double-teaming in those two games.

 

From the Jalen all 86 shots video:

Game 1

Gm1 1st Q
8:45
Jalen blows by Kuminga on a crossover. Takes a layup up against Draymond and gets blocked.
7:37
Jalen can't get by Steph Curry. He is taller than him but has to settle for an ugly looking, leaning back shot at the FT line (probably a good shot if not ugly). Brick
4:02
Single coverage against Payton. Drives into the lane (there are defenders there!!!) and does a nice looking reverse layup that scores.

2nd Q
5:05
Shoots a 3 guarded by Curry. Brick
1:51
Drives by Curry into Draymond. Blocked at the rim by Draymond.
:37
Jalen tries to drive by Kuminga and can't. Takes a weird, falling back jumper from the FT line. Brick
1.3
Payton on him. Green shoots a leaning back 3. Brick.

NONE of these shots were double covered. Some were funneling Jalen into Draymond which is what every player would face against GS. In two shots, someone flashed like they might double Jalen but then went back to their man.

2nd Q
11:26
Jalen misses a FT and scores on a layup from a nice pass from Brooks.
10:52
This is classic Jalen. Gets a pick at midcourt to get by his man. Draymond is in the lane and has to backpedal as he's the only person between Jalen and the basket. Jalen is probably going about 80% full speed, driving at a backpedaling Draymond. Blocked by Draymond at the rim.

3rd Q
9:42
Sengun misses a shot and he rebounds and kicks out to Jalen. Wide open 3. Brick

4thQ
11:38
Adams passes to Green. A WIDE OPEN 3. Brick
Amen rebounds and passes to Jalen who drives from the 3 point line. He blows by Steph for a wide open layup that....bricks.

8:23
Drives by Payton and gets to Draymond in the lane. Every team that plays against the Warriors will get to Draymond in the lane, that's how they play D. Blocked at the rim by Draymond or Payton.

2:05
Drives past Kuminga for a WIDE OPEN jumper at the elbow. Brick
:59
Drives by Kuminga. Draymond is there but Jalen scores a layup around him.

Game 3

1stQ

9:14 Screen from Sengun, Draymond moves to the 3 to defend Jalen, Jalen gets blocked on a 3 pointer

5:10 Jalen dunk on a fastbreak pass from Amen

5.5 seconds Jalen guarded by Draymond at the 3. He swishes a 3 over Draymond.

2ndQ

22 seconds Amen screens of Podz. Jalen is covered by Post who slides over. Draymond leaves Sengun to defend the rim. Jalen throws up an airball that may have been blocked. Draymond likely left Sengun all alone because he knew Post couldn’t guard Jalen and that Jalen wouldn’t be able to handle the double team.

3rdQ

8:59

Pick from Sengun around midcourt. Jalen gets to 3 point line and Draymond is there. Jalen tries to dribble around him to the basket. Airballs a layup (he did hit the backboard).

8:12

Wide open three from the corner. Brick.

5:27

Guarded at halfcourt by Hield. Crosses him over at 3 point line for an open 3 pointer. Bricks off back iron.

3:10

Blows by Hield at the 3 point line. Dribbles by a big man in the lane and lays it in.

1:47

Jalen inbounds to Adams. Adams with a nice pass as Jalen drives to the hoop. Jalen with a nice layup.

4thQ

7:49

Drives by a defender and a new defender meets him at the rim. He tries to pass out but turns it over.

3:27

Jalen gets a pass from Fred at the three point line. Podz rotates over to contest. 3 pointer bricks off the back of the rim.

Jalen was doubled once, maybe twice in this game. He bricked many open 3’s and was pretty bad at driving to the hole.

 

Crazy that you had to pull the receipts, because lots of people have said this many times already in the Jalen thread.

 

Perhaps you think it's a double team when Jalen dribbles into traffic due to bad spacing and him not making the right pass....but that's not actually a double team.

I'm not saying he was NEVER double teamed, but for the most part, that was always just an excuse for his pathetic performance.

 

these are his "shots"....

you double team someone so they "dont" shoot. double teamed doesnt mean kobe shooting over multiple defenders...

you lack basketball iq if you think he wasnt doubled during the series. he was picked up early and often behind the halfcourt line and was trapped/blitzed and doubled often to "get off the ball".

our coaching staff mentioned many multiples times that gsw gameplan was to do exactly that and we couldnt beat them 4 on 3 on the backside.

that being said, green was bad in the playoffs. he wasnt fast enough getting out of the ball and we absolutely could not take advantage of it ever on the backside after the trap. coach didnt adjust the offense, jalen didnt adjust, and we had no answer to it.

when he did beat his man he would run into a wall of defenders and didnt make good passing reads and the offense stalled. again. he was bad. but he was gameplaned and schemed to get trapped and blitzed often.

 

This shows that the narrative that he was relentlessly double teamed was BS and just used as an excuse for his pathetic performance.

He definitely got trapped....something you'd do with any really awful ball handler as they cross half court.

Most of the times he got "doubled" were when he dribbled into traffic....of which there was a lot due to the Rockets having 3 of the least efficient scorers in the NBA playing next to 2 guys with very limited range.

You're never going to have any spacing when you run with Sengun, Amen, Brooks, Green, FVV....so stop trying to penetrate like you will have the spacing to do so. It's only made worse when you have someone like Green trying to do so who has a weak handle, very low BBIQ, and limited passing ability and court vision.

These are the fundamental flaws the Rockets need to fix this offseason.