what is the highest pick in this draft that we could get for bari?

Banchero
Holmgren
Jaylen Williams
Mathurin
Sharpe
Ivey
Murray
Daniels
Duren
Mark williams
Braun
Kessler

 

That just shows you’re bad at evaluating talent and don’t understand what you’re watching.

Duren? Murray? Mark Williams?

Lol

 

I just threw out names from the draft. All 3 so far have had better starts to their careers over Jabari.

 

@Snow Villiers come get these Jabari dick riders. Worse than Jalen / Sengun of

 

They absolutely would. You could pair Jabari Smith with the cores of Philly or the Hornets on a cost controller contract for the right to draft...who? Smaller crappier Jabari in Bailey? Edgecomb? Johnson? Knueppel is mocked at 5 and he basically plays a Jabari role at 6-5.

People dont seem to understand measurables and talent. Jabari still has room to grow and he has **** you just cant teach. There are a handful of players in this league like him and in the last 5 drafts there have been 3 total players with his physical profile or better. Jabari. Chet. Wemby. Im not trading him for anything in this draft not named Dylan or Cooper.

Yall Jabari haters need to chill. He needs and deserves more time. He isnt Cam Whitmore mentally and he isnt Jalen Green or Reed Sheppard physically.

 

I'm not a Jabari hater. I think Ime should have played him more in the playoffs. I think he's a great fit with Alpi and Amen. He is extraordinary in his combination of size, shooting potential and rebounding. He's just not that good just yet.

He's nothing compared to Chet or Wemby. Those are not fair comparisons. Wemby has a chance to be one of the greatest of all-time. Chet is on a trajectory to be a top-10 overall player in the NBA.

All the draft prospects you site will be on cost-controlled deals for the next four seasons. We have Jabari cheap for only one more season. This affects his value.

I like Jabari and have no interest in trading him unless it's a top-30 player coming back. That doesn't mean that he's worth the #3 pick in a really good draft. He's just not.

Hopefully, we can resume this conversation after next season when Jabari puts up 18 and 10 on 42% 3-point shooting. I would be glad to tell you that you were right all along if that occurs.

 

Jabari's issue here is Ime. He has no interest in designing an offense that works to Jabari's skillset. If Jabari played for Golden State, they easily wouldve made the WCF (so long as Curry stays healthy). Ime worked in Boston because Tatum and Brown were capable on ball players that could figure out the offense for him. Jabari cant put the ball on the floor so he struggles here. He gets relegated to watching FVV and Jalen dribble the air out of the ball only to put up a bad shot.

Don't get me wrong, Jabari has issues he needs to work out. Hes too gun shy still and he cant dribble viably. This will be an issue on any team. He isnt Wemby or Chet. That's true. But find me another 6-11 guy with his movement and his shooting/rebounding/release point drafted in the last 10 years. I'll wait. You cant. Even Chet doesn't have his shot. Hes a better shooter right now, but his shot is worse. Its a low release and more than that, a slow one. Wembys is a bit better. Jabari and Reed are the two most valuable assets we have outside of Amen and Sengun. Reed is a bit different in that his shooting absolutely has to translate to make up for his physical shortcomings. Jabari is completely different. His size and dexterity cannot be taught. He has a good head on his shoulders.

I am more afraid of Jabari doing the Ayton thing and wanting to go somewhere else. Probably my #1 fear on this team right now followed by them starting Jalen/Fred again and also trading Sengun. Jabari at 21 years old with 3 years if experience is a better talent (still) than anyone in this draft not named Cooper or Harper.

 

I don't really disagree with anything you say here so have a "like".

I don't think Ime should be tasked with designing an offense that works to Jabari's skillset though. Jabari's role on offense should be to space the floor. My hope for his offensive growth is for him to improve his handle to where he can attack closeouts and become better at finishing at the rim. I'd like him to be a bigger Trey Murphy on offense. That would be a great weapon next to Alpi and Amen. Jabari will never be able to create is own shot. He should be a great 3rd or 4th option someday.

I think FVV still fits as long as he's playing mostly off-ball on offense. I agree that Jalen Green should be traded so he can **** the bed elsewhere.

 

Same....but funny enough as I responded to you it made me realize that Ime has sort of lazily tried to recreate the Boston Tatum/Brown thing with Jalen/Fred. Not horribly different from Silas trying to turn KPj into Harden. What you described with Jabari is an All-Star. Basically Klay Thompson. That's kinda the thing. If he ever develops the ability to attack closeouts effectively and shed defenders to keep them honest then he's just going to become an All Star by default. That's what you drafted. Guys like Keegan Murray or Ace Bailey don't really have that same ability because they're too short. Amen is the same but just way further along and in a different tier. If he develops an outside shot....he's a Top 3 player in the league.

 

With this new CBA and its aprons and such, we need to be a bit ruthless when it comes to Tari and Bari - let them go into restricted free agency with the option to match.

 

I think it wasn't just Silas, it was more Fertitta and Stone wanting him to turn into Harden but yeah there is only one Harden I guess.....one Luka.

Bari is severely underdeveloped on Offense.

 

I don't think he'll ever be an all-star as he'll never put up the numbers for it.

I'd like him to become an elite role player and the 3rd or 4th best player on the team.

Amen, Alpi and Jabari will hopefully become our "core 3" with Jalen upgrade making it four. I want to find a way to keep Tari as well as I think he's a winning player.

Talking about Trey Murphy makes me think that he would be a nice upgrade over Jalen. He seems to get injured more and he's not as athletic but he's bigger and has one of the best-looking shots in the NBA. A Jalen for Trey Murphy trade might make sense for the Pelicans if they're gonna choose to rebuild for another year or two.