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Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, May 29, 2025 at 8:47 AM.

  1. IdStrosfan

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    Man the love is deep
     
  2. Tomstro

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    Yeah a half season worth of at bats sporadically stretched over damn near a season and a half, with 2 different injuries, is a perfectly fair measuring stick. A guy that lost his starting spot due to injury and has played sparingly ever since. This year he has what? 45 at bats? 50? And you pretend that is enough to determine anything, even criticizing his good situational execution with the sacrifice bunts.

    Axe-to-grind
     
  3. Tomstro

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    Love > hate

    Try some time
     
  4. IdStrosfan

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    LMAO thank you.
     
  5. SamCassell

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    I was confused by your sentence - I thought you were discussing season long ISO and BB%, not just since May 1. I was looking at full season. Again, such a small sample size, to limit to less than a full month. But I agree that Dezenzo appears improved in May.

    I'm glad you have given up the campaign to trade Framber, and hope that you likewise give up your hatred of Chas. He's still got much better career numbers than Jake, in a sample size of 1300+ ABs. They're basically the same age. I remain confused why one has your undying love and the other your unending hatred. It's odd.
     
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  6. RussE

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    See you in July Yordan:confused:

     
  7. Rock Block

    Rock Block Sorta here sometimes

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    Ok fine I'll do it, I ****ing hate Chas, I also ****ing hate Dezenzo, throw the stats out the window, **** em' both. Get them both off our team. Where are all the perennial all star OF's when you need them???? There, that should settle it......







    Edit: j/k
     
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  8. IdStrosfan

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    I agree that Framber absolutely can't be traded.

    I still think the right move in the off season was to trade him. He's a SP. He could have just as easily gotten hurt as Wesneski, Arrighetti, or Blanco.

    For the 3rd year in a row the Astros are having terrible injury luck.

    I think Brown should have traded ANY SP going into a walk year. But he also has a responsibility to get talent back to help keep the window open beyond the current season AND have SP depth to cover the season.

    I am so thankful Framber is on this team. BUT in my opinion if the organization was run the way I prefer, then Brown would have signed some JAG veteran #4 SP, and there would be 2 more prospects that fit into the Astros top 5-8.

    Then you have SP depth to get through the season and hope at least 4 of: Hunter, Arrighetti, McCullers, Javier, Garcia, or Blanco are healthy and not exhausted in the playoffs.

    But again, since Framber is still here instead of some JAG, I'm very very happy.

    It's just crazy that the Astros have 3 more SP injuries and another set back.
     
  9. Htown Stros

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    Man I really hope we trade Chas so he can go get consistent ABs with another team. Just want to see which one of y’all are going to look stupid…
     
  10. Qan

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    July? You mean August at best.


     
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    I don't think that "just as easily" is true. Any pitcher - any player, really - can get hurt. But some are more brittle, and some are more durable. I think Framber's genetics, along with his build and pitch mix, make him less of an injury risk. Could he get hurt? Sure. Pitching involves a stressful motion on the shoulder and elbow. But some pitchers are definitely more likely to get hurt than others.
     
  12. Tomstro

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    Well, we never gave him an opportunity after his injury. Wasn’t right. There should be no mystery anymore about whether he can still play at 30 years old.

    also, I think he hates when Chas helps the team. He likes when Chas fails. Petty.

    I always root for all the players to do well.
     
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  13. IdStrosfan

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    You can't be talking about me.

    Who exactly is "he"? You didn't specify.
     
  14. Tomstro

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    You
     
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    You guessed it

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    Frank Stallone
     
  16. IdStrosfan

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    I have posted over 8500 messages on this site.

    I challenge you to find ONE.

    ONE SINGLE MESSAGE

    Where I said or even inferred that I was hoping any Astro did poorly.

    Find it and posted right here. I'll wait.
     
  17. IdStrosfan

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    Find me ANY report that said Chas was playing hurt last year.

    I realize he went on the IL with a hammy injury, but find me ANYTHING other that flat conjecture and guesses that said he was still hurt when he came back.

    It's awfully convenient that he had a sprint speed 1/2 a foot percsecobd faster than 2023 if he was nursing a hammy injury when he did play.

    It's just an excuse for him sucking - nothing more and not a shred of evidence.
     
  18. IdStrosfan

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    I would have said the same thing about Blanco 2 weeks ago.
     
  19. Tomstro

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    There isn’t one. The only proof I have is you constantly put him down and want to put every player in front of him. You have been challenged on this silliness to the point that you probably do hope Chas doesn't earn more playing time. You seem to really want him to continue to be frozen out. I can trace your dislike of Chas back to early season 2023, when you first started posting. We argued about him vs meyers then. When Chas was killing it, you were still favoring meyers until it was laughable to do so. Then, you begrudgingly admitted for a brief period that Chas should have the job. After the first 10-15 games of 2024, chas was struggling and you wanted him demoted to like 5th outfielder. When he came back from injury, and jake had like an ops below .600 for several months you were still wanting Chas to ride pine.

    The desire to be proven right about something that you’ve argued unwaveringly for 3 seasons now is probably pretty strong. That would mean Chas not helping the team in any significant way. You wanna keep him down.
     
  20. SamCassell

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    Blanco is a big guy, big frame, so I get that part. But he'd never even thrown 90 innings in a season before last year. Framber's got a much longer track record of being able to take the punishment. Very different than these guys who got hurt in terms of proven durability.
     
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