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Steven Adams is the Rockets’ franchise player.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by plegus, Feb 1, 2024.

  1. ThatBoyNick

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    What’s the max bird rights contract we can offer him?
     
  2. Rockets34Legend

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    Yeah we are losing him.
     
  4. Little Bit

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    Adams was a big part in the Rockets going from a borderline play-in team to a top 4 playoff team. The Rockets will be worse off if they lose him.
     
  5. OremLK

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    I just hope we don't let him walk for nothing, I would rather bring him back. He was a really good bench player for us and seems to still have plenty left in the tank. If we sign-and-trade him somewhere else, I guess that's fine, but we better be getting a nice asset back, not just replacing the 2nd rounders we sent out for him. We ate half a season of his contract and took the risk on whether he would come back 100%, his value is higher now than when we traded for him.

    And if it's the Lakers, Reaves, Knecht, or no Adams. Because f*** LA, they gotta overpay if they want our help.
     
  6. OkayAyeReloaded

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    Steven Adams established himself as a very impactful reserve in both the regular season and most importantly in the playoffs. If you want to replace a high impact veteran like that who wins games, the replacement player needs to be better than him.

    But honestly the main issue with teams keeping players are who to pay and how much. I don't know how much Steve will ask for, he did miss extended time which needs to be accounted for, but was great at the most important times postseason.

    If we had a primary scorer and shot well, we likely win that series and advance with Steve doing work in his role.

    It depends on the deal, who gets paid, room for future deals etc. If he does move I appreciate him and hope we get something of value as well. It's a business so we'll see what happens, but I'd like to keep him at least one more season unless something changes.
     
  7. DaDakota

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    I don't want him back, rebounding doesn't win championships.

    DD
     
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  9. DaDakota

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    When the Rockets won 2 championships they were one of the worst rebounding teams in the league.

    I love Adams but we need to balance out our roster, and he will cost too much, would rather that money go to a shooter.

    If we shoot better, there are a lot less rebounds......wouldn't that be nice.

    DD
     
  10. Asian Sensation

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    Welp since it worked out over 30 years ago I’m sure it will work out again :eek:
     
  11. Easy

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    Adams is almost reaching Boban's level as my favorite player. Stone, don't screw up on bringing him back!
     
  12. Francis3422

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    Re-sign him. Make more shots. He will get less total offensive rebounds but should maintain his percentage there. Get him a bit more involved in the offense (screening, passing).

    Sengun/Adams/Smith works well.
     
  13. DreamShook

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    DD anti jinx. I wish DD would hate Cam and Reed just like this.
     
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  14. DaDakota

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    He is a luxury, we don't need.....we need scoring......

    Let's not run back a failing roster.

    DD
     
  15. TimDuncanDonaut

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    On a regualr team, rebounding while important is not the end all be all. But on this team, 2nd chance points is a premium and is what kept us in games.

    Finanically speaking there are salary (like Tate or Jeenathan..etc) which can be used.

    Adams being good at reboundig should not prevent Jalen, FVV, Dillon, Amen, Tari, Cam, and Reed from knocking their long shots. Crowding the paint might effect those guy's drive to the basket but knocking down their open 3's is their job. If those guys can't shoot, those are the guys that should get replaced.

    Let's have some accountability here. Missing open 3's and missing free throws is not something you blame on your teammates.
     
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    Any sane Rocket fan would like Adams back as a very good backup center, but it always comes down to cost. Any move Stone makes has to be in the context of the Cap rules and future flexibility. What is the price for Adams? As a FA, probably all he can garner is 14.1 which is tax payer MLE money. If the Lakers offer that and the opportunity to start, we would probably have to commit to 20m or so over several years to entice him to stay. I don’t think spending 20m on a backup center or even 14.1 M is good cap management. Twin towers with two slower footed centers that can’t shoot from outside is not a winning strategy in this era of the NBA. It was one of our better outcomes offensively, because of our otherwise putrid offense and it didn’t lead to us advancing in the playoffs. That part of DD’s argument is valid. Not wanting him back at a reasonable cost is not valid. We do need a backup center.
     
  17. TimDuncanDonaut

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    Steven Adams is currently making $12m a year. How much do you think his agent is asking. more than 20? If we don't pay Tate, or let Landale go, that's his raise right there to $20 m.


    As the cap grows, it's all a matter % of the total cap. Eli and Stone, no doubt has a number (upper limit in mind).
     
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    I explained why. If another team offers him 14.1m and the opportunity to start (which I believe all NBA players want) you will have to pay a premium to keep him. Maybe I’m wrong and Adams is content to ride out his career with 10-15m off the bench backing up Sengun, but I doubt it. If the lakers come knocking, I think he’s gone unless you significantly over pay him. It is also the opportunity to play with Luka and Lebron.
    Any savings from Tate, Landale etc. are going to extensions for Jabari or Tari not a backup center.
     
  19. TimDuncanDonaut

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    People's opinion can differ but $14m for Adams really isn't overpay.
     
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    https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/63...steven-adams-giannis-antetokounmpo-nba-draft/

    … Veterans Steven Adams, Jeff Green and Jae’Sean Tate will be unrestricted free agents as of June 30 — but of the trio, Adams is seen as the clear priority, team sources told The Athletic.

    The 31-year-old’s career revival this season — recovering from a right knee injury and becoming a critical part of Udoka’s late-season rotation — is the reason hammering out his future is arguably Houston’s top priority, those sources said. But because of his two-way production, particularly his elite offensive rebounding, the possibility of Adams being lured away by a playoff team exists. Adams, who earned $12.6 million last season, would be a natural fit for teams such as San Antonio, New York, Indiana and both Los Angeles organizations. But the Rockets are operating under the assumption Adams wants to return — and will continue to speak with his representation about a possible extension, team sources said.

    • If Adams leaves, team sources said the Rockets could reignite their interest in Brook Lopez. The 37-year-old, who averaged 13.0 points, 5.0 rebounds and 1.9 blocks per game shooting 37 percent from 3 in Milwaukee last season, was previously a target for Houston and would theoretically be a fit, given his two-way production and health (played 237 games over the last three seasons). Houston is also anticipating conversations with Boston’s front office, with the assumption that the Celtics, who are in salary-reduction mode, will canvass the league looking to offload contracts.
     
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