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RFJ jr to lead Department of Health and Human Services

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by RESINator, Nov 14, 2024.

  1. deb4rockets

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    That's the damn truth. It's the reason civil rights and equal opportunity were initiated to begin with. Yet, qualified or more experienced gets labeled as nothing but DEI hires to men like Trump.
     
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    Posting Rob Schneider to make your point?
     
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    MAN WHO DOESN'T ACCEPT GERM THEORY
    YET IS SOMEHOW NATION'S TOP HEALTH OFFICIAL
    DEFENDED BY NICHE MESSAGE BOARD TROLL
     
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  5. DFWRocket

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    so this happened yesterday..


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  6. Nook

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    I don't think Cohen protesting RFK about Gaza is going to accomplish much - and isn't really the time or place ---- but what he said is 100% factually accurate, "Congress sends the bombs that kill children in Gaza and pays with cuts to Medicare."

    For an administration that claims that it puts Americans first - this is a strange way to do it.

    As for Rob Schneider, I hope he is doing better in his life now -- maybe his daughter at some point will forgive him for being a piece of ****, like several of his SNL coworkers have over the years.
     
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  7. JuanValdez

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    I get the sentiment he's referencing. He doesn't want the federal government to be overbearing about telling Americans they should do X and Y with their health, a touchy subject for MAGA after the Covid pandemic. He's trying to thread this needle of saying you should be free to take a vaccine or not take a vaccine and the Feds won't say you're wrong either way.

    And Democrats, of course, don't like that because they want the Federal government to say clearly and unequivocally that the right thing to do is to take the vaccines -- as we have long done. That is the approach that I endorse. Vaccines work with mass mobilization, not with individual choice. But, man, we are banging our heads on a brick wall always waxing amazed and offended when a MAGA official isn't willing to stray from the individual choice mantra. You will not be able to shame RFK Jr into saying Americans should take a particular vaccine.
     
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  9. deb4rockets

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    Health Information to the public just simply can't be trusted coming from RFK JR and his lying leader Trump. Those two are the worst possible combination. A liar and a conspiracy theorist.

    This was today.....

    President Trump said Thursday that autism must not occur naturally, citing figures inflating the spike in autism and suggesting the administration’s Make America Healthy Again (MAHA) Commission could provide answers.

    “When you hear 10,000, it was 1 in 10,000, and now it’s 1 in 31 for autism, I think that’s just a terrible thing. It has to be something on the outside, has to be artificially induced, has to be,” Trump said at a MAHA Commission event. “And we will not allow our public health system to be captured by the very industries it’s supposed to oversee. So we’re demanding the answers, the public is demanding the answers and that’s why we’re here.”

    https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5314993-trump-autism-maha-commission-report/amp/


    First of all, we don't need a President spewing flat out lies about Autism numbers. He makes up the most absolute bullshit and then you have folks, like quite a few on this forum who take it as gospel. That's just flat out wrong. How in the hell can you ever trust anything out of that man's mouth when he just spews lies all the time?

    Him saying Autism has gone from 1 in 10,000 to 1 in 35 is not even remotely close to the truth. In fact, it's so far from the truth it's mind blowing that this man is President. Even 25 years ago they said the rates were approximately 1 in 150. That's nowhere even close to 1 in 10,000.

    In fact, there are many reasons more children are diagnosed on the spectrum than 25 years ago. I would guess that 50 years ago the kids were labeled either mentally r****ded, or went to regular schools and if they weren't on the high end of the spectrum their struggles were just assumed to be because they weren't too bright, or they were just weird, or loners. Even if they were on the high end of the spectrum they might have just been thought of as a little unusual, if they had strange behavior or social skills.

    Many people knew very little about Autism before all the Autism Awareness and community outreach. Parents are much more aware of the signs or symptoms now, and are more inclined to seek testing after the age of 2, and before their child even goes to PK. Teachers are trained on Autism now, and diagnosticians work with the teachers hand in hand, to test children when they see signs, even if parents don't come to them first.

    One day, hopefully we will find some answers, but Trump doesn't know anything. His view that it isn't genetic isn't based on anything but opinion. It could be genetic, it could be a combination of genetic and environmental factors, or it could be from environmental factors. We simply don't know yet. It's just irresponsible for him to pretend to be the expert of everything, especially when he has people believing everything he says as fact.
     
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  10. rimrocker

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    RFK, Jr is looking at creating "in-house" publications and barring HHS scientists, including those at CDC, NIH, and even those who receive funding through HHS, from publishing in places like the New England Journal of Medicine, Journal of the American Medical Association, Lancet, and others. He thinks those longstanding reputable journals are "corrupt" and under the influence of the pharmaceutical industry.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2025/05/28/rfk-jr-ban-journals-lancet-jama/

    Lunacy. (This could have gone in the brain-drain thread too.)
     
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    American doctors look to relocate to Canada to avoid the Trump administration

    CanAm has seen a 65% increase in American doctors looking for Canadian jobs between January and April, and that the company has been contacted by as many as 15 American doctors a day.

    Rohini Patel, a CanAm recruiter and doctor, said some consider pay cuts to move quickly.

    "They're ready to move to Canada tomorrow," she said. "They are not concerned about what their income is."

    The Medical Council of Canada said in an email statement that the number of American doctors creating accounts on physiciansapply.ca, which is "typically the first step" to being licensed in Canada, has increased more than 750% over the past seven months compared with the same time period last year — from 71 applicants to 615. Separately, medical licensing organizations in Canada's most populous provinces reported a rise in Americans either applying for or receiving Canadian licenses, with at least some doctors disclosing they were moving specifically because of Trump.

    "The doctors that we are talking to are embarrassed to say they're Americans," said John Philpott, CEO of CanAm Physician Recruiting, which recruits doctors into Canada. "They state that right out of the gate: 'I have to leave this country. It is not what it used to be.'"


    https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-...e-to-canada-to-avoid-the-trump-administration
     
  12. Jugdish

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    Good riddance. More raw milk and energy crystals for me.
     
  13. ima_drummer2k

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    You really shouldn't cast aspersions on Dr. Kennedy.
     
  14. SuraGotMadHops

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    Y'all loved him before he flipped...
     
  15. Amiga

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    Not exactly a great start.

    The MAHA Report Cites Studies That Don’t Exist


    Epidemiologist Katherine Keyes is listed in the MAHA report as the first author of a study on anxiety in adolescents. When NOTUS reached out to her this week, she was surprised to hear of the citation. She does study mental health and substance use, she said. But she didn’t write the paper listed.

    “The paper cited is not a real paper that I or my colleagues were involved with,” Keyes told NOTUS via email. “We’ve certainly done research on this topic, but did not publish a paper in JAMA Pediatrics on this topic with that co-author group, or with that title.”


    The anxiety study wasn’t the only one the report cites that appears to be mysteriously absent from the scientific literature. A section describing the “corporate capture of media” highlights two studies that it says are “broadly illustrative” of how a rise in direct-to-consumer drug advertisements has led to more prescriptions being written for ADHD medications and antidepressants for kids.

    The catch? Neither of those studies is anywhere to be found.

    The corticosteroids study’s supposed first author, pediatric pulmonologist Harold J. Farber, denied writing it or ever working with the other listed authors. He pointed to similar research he’s conducted, but said that even if the MAHA report cited that study correctly, its conclusions are “clearly an overgeneralization” of the findings.

    Spread across the footnotes of the 73-page document, those missing papers are listed alongside dozens of citations with more mundane errors like broken links, missing or incorrect authors and wrong issue numbers.

    In one section about mental health medication, which Kennedy has railed against for years, the report cites a review paper it claims shows that therapy alone is as or more effective than psychiatric medicine. But one of that paper’s statisticians told NOTUS that conclusion doesn’t make sense, given their study didn’t even attempt to measure or compare therapy’s effectiveness as a mental health treatment.

    “The conclusions in the report are not accurate and the journal reference is incorrect. It was not published in Pediatrics. Also, the study was not done in children, but in college students,” Mariana G. Figueiro emailed NOTUS. She added that she even had more relevant research the authors could have used: “I was not aware of the choice, or else I would have suggested one of the other ones.”
     
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  16. pgabriel

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    Loved Kennedy Jr? When?
     
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    Lol. If Democrats had loved him, he wouldn't have had to flip.
     
  19. Amiga

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    Update on the fake studies in the MAHA report

    Formatting the Issues

    ‘Formatting Issues’: White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said the fake studies NOTUS discovered in the “Make America Healthy Again” report were just “formatting mistakes” that would be fixed in an updated version. But how did they get there in the first place? There’s rampant (and reasonable) speculation that AI was used, but Leavitt deferred that question to Health and Human Services, which hasn’t given an answer yet.

    Last night, however, The Washington Post reported that “some references include ‘oaicite’ attached to URLs — a definitive sign that the research was collected using artificial intelligence.”

    Nothing to See Here: An updated version of the MAHA Commission report dropped shortly after Leavitt’s press briefing Thursday. Citations to studies that don’t exist were removed, while others were updated.

    • “Minor citation and formatting errors have been corrected, but the substance of the MAHA report remains the same — a historic and transformative assessment by the federal government to understand the chronic disease epidemic afflicting our nation’s children,” HHS spokesperson Emily Hilliard told NOTUS.
    • The White House is standing by Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s project, which he claims harnesses “gold-standard” science: “The bulk of the report is still factually accurate — nothing changes in the report,” a White House aide said.
    However: “While the replacement references all appear to be to real sources, it’s not immediately clear whether they all support the claims the report is making,” NOTUS’ Margaret Manto reports
     
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  20. SuraGotMadHops

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    Dems will find a way to be upset about this.
     

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