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Nets could look to package Cam Johnson in a trade to acquire a 2nd lottery pick, per NY Post

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by HealthyHamstring, May 27, 2025.

  1. xtruroyaltyx

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    If the Rockets arent trading up, then id absolutely do this deal except id look to include Jalen in some way...maybe in a three team trade.

    Ive been on the Cam Johnson bandwagon for a while now. Cam and Durant this offseason.
     
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  2. roslolian

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    Cam and Jalen play different positions. Cam also cant create his own shot so not sure what you mean by Cam can do some stuff with the ball?

    Just looking at their stats Dillon is already better than Cam one on one, Dillon plays good defense and shoots 3s just like Cam. Dillon also has the mid range move he can use off the dribble.

    Are you talking about Cam Thomas? lol
     
  3. Le$$

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    Who's says NO to have cam johnson off the bench.
     
  4. Corrosion

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    Cam for 10 but you have to take Jalen.
     
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    My proposal is Jalen for Cam Johnson then Ty Jerome as a free agent.

    Cam Johnson obviously doesn't have the athleticism that Jalen Green does and can't create a shot as easily as Jalen does. It's important to note that his shots go in much more frequently than Jalen's though.

    Compared to Dillon, Cam can absolutely do more with the ball. Despite being Brooklyn's best offensive option by far, Cam was much better at getting to the rim this season and converting there. Cam draws more fouls and shoots a lot more free throws. He's a vastly superior passer to Dillon. Once Dillon begins dribbling toward the basket, he's probably taking a shot from 12-15 feet out. Cam is much better at taking a few dribbles toward the basket and finding the open man. In fact, his assist numbers were the same as Jalen Greens- with a lot less turnovers. Brooklyn runs a lot of dribble handoffs and Cam can do much more with a screen than Dillon. All this while being Brooklyn's best offensive threat and the focus of defensive attention.

    I like Dillon Brooks and I'm not suggesting trading him though. Cam Johnson's elite offensive efficiency would level us up offensively in the starting lineup.

    Dillon Brooks TSS- 55.5 is below league average despite generally being our 4th offensive option
    Cam Johnson TSS- 63.2 is elite. This is despite being Brooklyn's number one offensive option

    I'd want Cam Johnson to replace Dillon in the starting lineup. Dillon would then come off the bench along with Tari and then Jabari at the 5.

    Cam's DPM was -0.7 this season. Below average. That's better than Jalen's though this season- -.8. Cam had a positive DPM when he played for Phoenix though and was less of an offensive engine than he is now. I think he's capable of decent defense when utilized as more of role player.

    He would be an elite role player here which is what we need. We need to build the roster around our two young stars- Amen and Alpi. We need shooters around them. Cam Johnson and Ty Jerome are exactly what we need.
     
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    Me. He would start here.
     
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    I'm also part of the trade Jalen Green movement. Coby White is a better offensive player than Jalen but he's one of the worst defensive guards in the league. His DPM is even worse than CJ McCollum and Collin Sexton this season. I'd rather just keep Jalen.

    Mikal Bridges and Cam Johnson are entirely different players. Cam can't defend or create like Mikal but Mikal can't shoot like Cam Johnson and shooting is what we need.

    I don't think anyone is trading back in the draft for Cam Whitmore. Maybe Reed Sheppard would get us there but not Cam Whitmore unfortunately.
     
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    Jabari can play some minutes at the 5. Problem solved.
     
  9. roslolian

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    There is no money to sign Ty Jerome. I think we only have 12M space to sign guys.

    CJ gets nos in Brooklyn's offensive system, on our team we dont know if he even get the ball. CJ also got his nos playing on a bad team in the Least. Not sure how he would perform in the west.
     
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    He would perform efficiently.
     
  11. Mathloom

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    lol obviously we're not trading the better catch and shoot 3pt shooter and the better defender in Jalen Green for Cam Johnson. He's not even a better role player than Green. Setting that laughable notion aside.

    He's not worth the #10 pick. What I would want for the #10 pick is the right to use their cap space however we want. There would be no other team in the league with the ability to simply take a max player off someone else's cap. That's extremely valuable. As it stands what they were planning to do with that cap space was to rent it out for a mediocre FRP or sign someone who would then be traded for the profit of a FRP. We're taking the right to do that from them in exchange for the #10 pick.

    Here's an example of how it could help us, though we would have other options: we could go to the Suns and tell them they're cornered. No one can take Durant off their hands outright. Everyone else can't save them from this titanic of a luxury tax bill coming their way. Detroit is close but they would have to dump contracts and waive rights to do it (and we're the only team that can take those contracts). That means we would likely be able to acquire Durant extremely cheaply. Their options would be:

    1) Trade him to the Rockets for $100m+ in tax savings and a future top 10 protected pick or unswapping a swap
    2) Trade him to X team for $0 in tax savings, stay in the second apron, but they get a contender's top 3 protected future pick

    Essentially, we use our #10 pick to make our acquisitions cheaper. Another route would be we can take Porzingis and/or Holiday from the Celtics and the Celtics would have to pay us. DeAndre Hunter, Naz Reid, Nickeil Alexander Walker. If the Pistons want to add a max salary they would only be able to clear cap space with us.

    Would love to go into this summer with this advantage. I doubt Nets can get better than a #10 pick for renting out their cap space.
     
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    Now you’re talking. Off-loading FVV and picking up assets. Of course, if Phoenix would take him and #10 for Durant, that would be better.
     
  13. Hemingway

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    I agree, but it is critical that he initiate the offense more often than not. Who he plays with can have a big impact on that. I think pro basketball has become positionless to a certain degree. The idea that you need a pure PG is archaic. It’s mostly just backcourt and frontcourt players now.
     
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    Be careful with defensive metrics as they tend to look good on players that are on good defensive teams. Typically if the team defense is good, then the player can be individually looked at as being a good defender. The Bulls were the 18th ranked defense and also started Josh Giddey while playing Matas Buzelis minutes. I think he'd be fine here defensively.

    Im not sure what will happen at this point. I just know that we cant start that same atrocious lineup we did in the playoffs again for a whole season. Id be cool with Johnson but not with Dillon here. Starting something like Reed/Amen/Cam/Jabari/Sengun would be cool with me.
     
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    I thought about that, but I'm not sure he has enough sand in his pants. If he can add 10lbs of muscle over the offseason without affecting his shooting, maybe.
     
  16. Hemingway

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    With Ime as coach, lol.
     
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  17. Bobbythegreat

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    Stop. Get help.
     
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    https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/63...uminga-future-nba/?source=user_shared_article
     
  19. SamFisher

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    The Rockets should say no because they already have 3 of the exact same player archetype, all of whom are cheaper, and 1 other guy who plays in the same spot in Thompson.
     
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  20. Patience

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    Too many Cams and Jalens these days. Confusing.
     
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