what is highest pick we could acquire in this draft for jalen?

That is……a take. Saying no to flagg for jalen lmao

 

Jalen's Green value is at an all-time low IMO. He's a role player. I could see him potentially as a valuable 6th man.

I think it's clear he's not a star for anyone not trying to lose.

 

I think Jalen's mom and his 40 year old girlfriend would both trade him for Cooper Flagg.

 

Hear me out....

Jalen + 10 for Poole + 6

For the Wiz:
Ability to take a chance on Green who still has upside plus getting a good lottery pick in the draft. I think Green could benefit from a change of scenery and perhaps a bit less pressure.

For the Rox:
Get a similar-ish type of player (gunner) in Poole without the upside. Poole has a shorter contract and no player option plus we'd get a high lottery pick. Also, Poole isn't playing the role of the franchise player like Green was, so theoretically he should be getting less minutes and shots. Rockets could add another high draft pick to the stable or use it to make another move.

 

I hear you out but that is a lateral move for DC......they are after Derik Queen ....
so that let me believe they are after a Sengün type or Hartenstein.

Next to Sarr or let Sarr play some PF.

To get out of Poole's contract would be next but priorities should be surrounding the Draft.

 

But some folks want to trade him. Amazing.

 

Idiots. And this coming from someone who is not a fan of Sengun's archetype. But talent is talent.

 

That's because players come into the league so young, unpolished and immature both mentally and physically.

 

Everyone complains about the Silas years, funny thing is, when you crunch all the stats, that rookie year may have been his best.

 

Harden's playoffs are far better than Jalen's.

They are not close at all.

 

Harden's playoffs are far better than Jalen's.

They are not close at all.

 

Not sure why we would trade Green for a pick unless if it's #1 or #2, which those two teams would not do it. The way you use Green in a trade would be similar to how Sexton or Markkanen for the Mitchell trade. You use the total value of Green's untapped potential to the new team paired with picks so that it's a hedge against that untapped potential not working, while getting an actual meaningful player with lots of quality years left.

Trading Green for let's say the #6 player in the draft is selling low on Green and doesn't solve our biggest need in the context of building a multi-contending championship team. If your belief is that trading Green is a positive by subtraction, which I don't agree with, then trading him at the trade deadline probably makes a lot more sense.

 

Maybe Coby White and 12 for Jalen and 10. You are underestimating Jalen’s trade value. We should be targeting Washington

Good and correct post on all levels.

 

Low value is 2 second round picks. High value is a mid first round pick.

 

If we could get any first round pick for Jalen without having to take back a bad contract, that would be a win.

 

I like both ideas tbh. Coby White + 12 for Green + 10 and also sending him to Washington for their pick + Poole but understand that they already did the Bradley Beal thing which made them irrelevant for a decade. They are acutely aware of the downfall of an inefficient shooting guard. The good thing is that he has a 3 year deal that can be easily traded in his 3rd year. Charlotte is a better target IMO. Washington is in full rebuild mode. I dont think Charlotte wants to train another rookie. Ball - Jalen - Miller competes next year and gives Jalen a 2 year trial run. We get the 4th pick in exchange and likely draft VJ Edgecomb.

Donovan Mitchell is a bad comp because at the time he was traded was a vastly superior player to Jalen Green. Yall need to stop overestimating Jalen Green's perceived "upside" and trade value. He has proven almost nothing 4 years in other than a Linsanity stint last March that isnt too different from what Quentin Grimes did for Philly this year. You could trade for an upside swing like Jazz did with Markannen and I think thats probably either Coby White or Bennedict Mathurin in Indiana. I like Green + Tari for Mathurin + Walker.

This team needs to build around its two stars and neither Jalen Green or Fred VanVleet fit that as small dudes that cant shoot. If either could shoot worth a damn this wouldn't even be a discussion.

 

I seriously doubt Stone's ability to negotiate effectively and secure meaningful benefits from his trades. Over his 4 years as general manager, aside from draft picks, his track record is lackluster and, frankly, mediocre, clearly not by design. Anyone from clutchfans could arguably do his job if it simply involved selecting consensus draft picks and passively observing how events unfold. Signing Fred and Dillon was positive, but there was little competition from other teams, and overpaying players naturally makes any team an attractive destination.

We know he isn't Presti level but Stone must improve. I will be extremely disappointed if Jalen is traded for peanuts after it's too late.

 

Stone is an emotional contracts peon masquerading as a GM. He's a puppet for Fertitta and baby Fertitta. His reaction to Jackson's question was telling of who he is and likely a window on how he is during negotiations. He's unserious and his wife's behavior is another example of how he carries his life. I doubt any GM takes any negotiations with him particularly seriously. They probably see him as someone that can be taken advantage of. His deals with the Nets and subsequent Phoenix picks were good IMO. His contracts are where he is best. Talent acquisition he is absolutely abysmal at. Outside of Sengun.

 

I haven’t seen him give a clear, non-political answer to a single question worth hearing. I completely ignore his press conferences because his talks lack substance. They’re very generic. All he does is provide generic answers to generic questions. When someone like Jackson asks a factual, grounded question, he sidesteps reality in front of everyone and acts like a fanboy of a player.Of course, nobody expects him to reveal franchise secrets, but come on, for once, I want to feel like he’s actually knowledgeable about something remotely connected to the game of basketball. You’re right, he’s just Fertitta’s mouthpiece and probably doesn’t even have an original opinion of his own.

 

He has a mixed bag as far as trades go. Harden trade was good, trade for Sengun fleeced the best GM in the league. Trade of Nets picks for Phoenix picks was good. Trade of Westbrook for Wall and 1st rounder worked out well. FVV and Brooks were necessary moves since we had to spend the money and both have served their purpose as culture setting vets. His drafting has been a mixed bag. Amen, Sengun, Tari, Jabari all good picks in my opinion. Missed on Jalen. He missed on Silas as a coach. Missed on KPJ and other first round picks. I would give him a solid B as a GM so far. This off-season, however, should be the equivalent of a final exam. He told us his plan and has executed on it up to this point. The next step in the plan was to create a contender. If he runs it back and extends FVV with the intent on him being our starting PG, he will have failed the final exam and should be replaced.