Giannis Trade Package: Prioritizing a Picks or Players Package

Houston's not floating Amen. But Sengun? He will be for Giannis. Because one's untouchable and the other, clearly, isn't.

And this is why you need the truth to be 'hate' so it can be ignored or summarily dismissed. But it's not hate. It's just the truth.

 

You need to”truth” to be what you want.
In reality, Alp and Amen are untouchable.

But of course, alt accounts don’t recognize this

 

Nah, you’re off on this one. Amen is the one who has to go in a Giannis trade — not Sengun. You can’t pair two non-shooters and expect spacing to work in today’s NBA. Giannis already operates best with a clear lane, and defenders are going to sag way off Amen and just pack the paint. It completely clogs things up.

Just imagine Westbrook and Giannis on the same team — it’d be a disaster offensively. Same principle applies here. As promising as Amen is, if you’re bringing in Giannis, you need shooting and spacing around him. Sengun at least gives you some offensive versatility and playmaking in the half court. Amen and Giannis together? That’s a brick wall waiting to happen.

 

Yes, you can't put two non-shooters on the floor and expect to win at the highest level in today's NBA. But Amen Thompson and Giannis Antetokounmpo is an exception so compelling, so uniquely gifted, that the old rules start to crack. They're not just good at what they do, they're elite. Coaches recalibrate because of a pairing like that. You don’t pass that up.

Now, take that same logic and aim it at Giannis and Sengun. Sengun can score, sure, but he can’t shoot. He's not a great defensive player. He’s not special like Amen. I think the Rockets can see this. Sengun is basically a developing Sabonis. A nice player. Not a game-changer.

Amen? He’s not Russell Westbrook. He’s not some wild, inefficient energy guy. He’s First Team All-Defense in year two. He’s already a lockdown defender. Already elite on one side of the ball and climbing fast on the other.

They're not trading Amen. They're building around him. Sengun? My bet is he's superstar bait.

 

That's just the thing, most of the starters would have to go if there was a Giannis trade.

GIannis can't operate next to non shooters because he can't score further than 3 feet from the rim. He needs ALL the spacing, and he can only have that next to 4 shooters.

At a minimum, you'd have to dump Jalen and Amen, probably Sengun too.


.....and you'd be doing this for a guy who is unlikely to still be an NBA caliber player 5 years from now.

 

I hope Giannis stays in Milwaukee. The only reason I might want to reluctantly gut our young core is so he would not go to San Antonio, which would sicken me as much as when KD went to the Warriors.

Let's get over the idea that having even Hall of Famers on your team is meaningless unless a title is won.

 

I think the idea that we will have to gut our team to acquire Giannis is a fallacy. If Giannis is serious about leaving there are only a few suitors with anything to offer. SA, Houston, OKC, and Brooklyn. If SA takes the no. 2 pick off the table, then the Rockets definitely are the best option for the Bucks and Sengun would be the best possible player to get in return. If Giannis has the Rockets as one of the teams he will go to all the cards are in the Rockets hands. They should offer Sengun, filler (or Dillon) and 2 really good picks. Anything more and you just say no. Make the Bucks find a better offer. Their hands are tied because of the 2nd Apron.

 

Not to get him, but we'd have to gut the team to fit with GIannis.

Giannis is a guy that can't score further than 3 feet from the rim, he can't be surrounded by 3 of the least efficient scorers at their position at the PG, SG, and SF positions....he needs to be completely surrounded by shooters to be effective.

That means most of Sengun, Amen, FVV, Brooks, and Jalen have to go.

It's why I just don't like the fit, especially given that Giannis is nearing the end of his productive career.

 

This post is false. Giannis is much more than you think he is.

 

I don’t see replacing the same as gutting. In this scenario, Sengun is out. I’m in favor of getting rid of FVV and Jalen and our other picks should be in play for more shooters. Basically your core starters are Amen, Giannis, and Jabari. Add another shooting SG and a shooting Center. The hardest part is replacing Sengun with a Center that can shoot.

 

Explain what you think is false about what I said.

 

You still need to get rid of Amen because he can't shoot and Brooks because his scoring efficiency is so terrible....so you are having to get rid of and replace at least 5 of your 8 rotation players.... including a 22 year old who is already a top 15-20 player in the league according to several metrics. I consider that gutting a team.

Also, you'd be doing this for a low odds chance at 3 or 4 years of possible contention after which you'd be back in tanking again.

It just seems like a really, really bad idea.

 

Now I'm sure it's going to be underwhelming.

 

Don’t agree on Amen, but you will never concede PG to him over your boy.

 

As amazing as it would be to get players without worrying about salary implications, the salary cap rules won’t allow unlimited max contracts on a team.

Giannis is on a max deal, Amen will likely get a max deal, Sengun and Jalen Green are both getting a pretty penny. Tari and Jabari Smith are both due huge raises. Brooks is still on the books, and VanVleet is worth resigning at a reduced price.

So in any deal for Giannis, salary must go out in addition to the young talent that will entice the Bucks to trade Giannis. A deal of Green, Jabari, VanVleet, and the 10th pick may be a very good haul for the Bucks. But they may want some more future picks to pull the trigger….

Essentially, even if Milwaukee didn’t want any players back from the Rockets, the Rockets would still have to shed salary to get Giannis under their salary cap figures.

With that said VanVleet’s contract may be useful, if Milwaukee is wants more picks than players, which would be the Phoenix picks, and the Rockets other 1st round picks…. Brooklyn’s 2027 1st round pick.

 

Sengun and filler or Dillon fulfill the salary requirements. If you send out FVv and filler it will cost more in picks. Jalen might cost you one less pick than FVV. FVV has negative trade value.

 

It doesn't matter who is on the team, Amen isn't a PG.... and the reason he can't fit with Giannis at any position is because he can't shoot and Giannis can only work when surrounded by shooters.

 

lakers could get Giannis for Reaves and a 2nd rounder.