Pacers and OKC are using 10-11 man rotation in playoffs

If we treated the regular season more developmentally, there’s zero guarantees it would have resulted in a better playoff performance. Or guarantees we even make the playoffs.

 

"Guarantee" is a strong word. What about "chances" or "probability"?

 

That’s fair but I still think those who are putting emphasis on development over winning are just wishcasting..

 

It's not putting one thing over the other, with a halfway competent head coach, you can do both.

Unfortunately the Rockets don't have a competent coach when it comes to player management and rotations....so he refused to develop players at the expense of the team.

But, he's a young coach, perhaps he'll learn how to be a coach eventually.

 

Yep. I'd also point out that while Cam and Reed's development was slowed, Amen, Sengun, JSJ, and Tari's were probably helped by being in a winning environment. Green is still in the undecided category.

 

Amen's development was slowed by Ime's incompetence as well, he had to put up with the same BS Reed Sheppard did....the only difference was that injury forced Amen into the rotation during his rookie season while Reed got injured himself.

 

Agree completely. Ime only makes changes when forced.

 

I can’t believe Daigneault played Shai and JDub 40 and 39 minutes last game, respectively. What a terrible head coach.

 

Why does this thread remind me of that game many seasons back under Mike Dan Tony when we had a 22-pt lead at halftime (was it over the got-damn Warriors?) and yet we lost the game, easily.

Dan Tony went with a 7 man rotation the whole game. And players who weren't 3 point shooters (at least someone who could give 5 or 10 minutes rest for those 7) were left on the bench, filing their nails, checking out Youtube, whatever.

 

Exactly. And players like Amen still have some ways to go before they are able to consistently run the offense. We simply aren't as good as some of the Ime bashers would have folks believe.

 

They are more seasoned for the most part but besides that their roster and style is different. They don’t clog the lanes with a center and play a lot of 5 out, iso, and their offense is ran through a combo guard.

 

We also don’t have as deep a bench we think we do. 9 man rotation with Holliday. The other 2 (cam and reed) not good enough and Jock wasn’t needed against Warriors.

 

Who’s landry? Also Tate was injured. Cam isn’t good on either end. Maybe he could have gone in situationally for a play where we needed a 3 or score etc but definitely not extended minutes or significant period. I think udoka would have played Tate if he wasn’t injured

 

Meant Landale
You are missing the point. Playing Cam extended minutes gives rest to the starters and by the way it’s the coaches job to encourage his players to be ready and confident.
I’m watching OKC, Pacers, Knicks and Twolves going deeper into their benches.
Ok Tate was injured , you mean Sheppard couldn’t hit an open 3 if a play was drawn up? A simple drive and kick, then swing swing swing

 

Like I said maybe situationally like a play where we need offense or last 20 sec of the half etc with the ball but I don’t trust him in extended minutes and he shouldn’t be trusted for anything more. Neither should Sheppard. One TO could be costly. One wrong read offensively or lack of help defense or undisciplined gambling jumping lanes etc could be costly. So no way those guys get minutes. As I said before our team isn’t there yet. Not good enough. Reed and Cam aren’t Toppin or Mathurin or joe or keinrich Williams. All those guys are vets and trusted.

 

Isn’t it the coaches job to coach em up?
I’m sorry Reed and Cam might not be vets but they can score if put in the best situations to succeed.
Truth is we will see next season if our bench improves and out coach improves on the offensive end and trusts his players to do their job.

 

All these guys you are seeing OKC and Indiana let play are vets and have a history of helping their teams earning trust from their coaches. Cam plays 1 on 4 basketball this is not winning ball. I might put him out there in situations where I need an extra shooter or a drive to the paint but unlikely. Sorry but him and Sheppard aren't disciplined or experienced enough right now. It's not coaching, it's about what guys are you comfortable putting out there to perform and do their job. I trust Holliday and Tate to be that 9th and 10th guy. Hopefully Shep and Cam can grow next year into consistent rotation players. We shall see.

 

There is a difference between playing the MVP and JDub 40 mins than playing a short, slow, inconsistent pg that can’t drive 40 mins.

 

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He still played 9 players. Makes sense to play your two top scorers the most minutes. This isn't a flex for Ime...

 

And it’s easier to be deep when you have a bonafide elite offensive creator like Halliburton and SGA.